noob Report post Posted February 25, 2009 great tutorial, how do you get the leather to be form fitted, where you can see the lines of the gun in the leather? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mattsh Report post Posted March 4, 2009 (edited) noob - to accomplish this you have to 'bone' the leather to the gun. After you 'case' the leather by putting it in warm water you put your gun or dummy in the holster and press the leather to form around the gun. Then use a smooth tool of some sort to press into the leather the outlines of the gun. The more 'professional' way to do this is to use a press to fit the leather around the gun. This is done by having two pieces of 40 durometer gum rubber about 12" x 12" x 1.5" and putting steel plates on the outsides and putting the holster inbetween the two pieces of rubber and then 'squishing' it with a press. What this accomplishes is that it compresses the leather which helps with rigidity and also does a decent job at forming the holster to the gun. You would then remove the holster and use a smooth tool to 'bone' the leather to the lines of the gun. This means using the smooth tool to basically draw into the leather the lines of the gun. This helps with retention. It is personal preference as to how much 'boning' you do. Some makers like to put alot of gun detail onto the leather and others just do a basic outline. Edited March 4, 2009 by mattsh Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tnoisaw Report post Posted March 14, 2010 Thanks so much for that. I was struggling in my holster design and you simplified it so much. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GunNut Report post Posted April 9, 2010 I am new here so please accept my comment with that in mind. I have been making holsters for a few years now and only found this website recently. I felt your tutorial was excellent. It hit on all the points that you don't learn from the patterns you can order. I wish I would have had this when I started. It would have made my life much easier. One thing I do when using an exotic leather with a leather liner is reverse them. I leave the exotic the way you have it but turn the rough side of the leather to the rough side of the exotic. The glue holds much better and you don't have to rough the glue patch. It also leaves a smooth surface for the gun to ride on. I have just recently moved up to a Boss machine from hand stitching so I'm in learning mode again. Thanks for the great article and the pictures! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Billsotx Report post Posted April 9, 2010 (edited) I am new here so please accept my comment with that in mind. I have been making holsters for a few years now and only found this website recently. I felt your tutorial was excellent. It hit on all the points that you don't learn from the patterns you can order. I wish I would have had this when I started. It would have made my life much easier. One thing I do when using an exotic leather with a leather liner is reverse them. I leave the exotic the way you have it but turn the rough side of the leather to the rough side of the exotic. The glue holds much better and you don't have to rough the glue patch. It also leaves a smooth surface for the gun to ride on. I have just recently moved up to a Boss machine from hand stitching so I'm in learning mode again. Thanks for the great article and the pictures! 13. This picture shows a couple steps later. Pictures would not have shown much. I have cut out the elephant and glued it to the flesh side of the cow hide so the smooth side is inside. I have also cut out the mouth/belt loop support piece and glued it together. My understanding is that roughside and flesh side are the same. Maybe I'm missing something .... Smooth is grain from what I've read. Edited April 9, 2010 by Billsotx Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GunNut Report post Posted April 9, 2010 13. This picture shows a couple steps later. Pictures would not have shown much. I have cut out the elephant and glued it to the flesh side of the cow hide so the smooth side is inside. I have also cut out the mouth/belt loop support piece and glued it together. My understanding is that roughside and flesh side are the same. Maybe I'm missing something .... Smooth is grain from what I've read. Nope I just missed it the first time I read it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
horsewreck Report post Posted May 13, 2010 While it is a fairly long process you go through it does get you there. When I first started making holsters I used a like process. After a couple of years building I figured out some short cuts and things start to speed up. Stay after it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
johnggrg Report post Posted September 29, 2011 I just wanted to say thank you for taking the time to to make this. I am a beginer and it explained alot I did not understand before. And also thanks to everyone else who added their knoledge to it to. For a beginer it was very easy to understand with all the pictures and details. Again just wanted to say thank you!! John Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mattsh Report post Posted September 30, 2011 Your welcome John, from all of us here on the forum. That is the reason we are here, to show off our stuff, vent our frustrations and help each other with knowledge sharing. Good luck on your project. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
70cuda383 Report post Posted July 31, 2012 Question about the boning process. is the only way to get the nice detailed outline of the weapon into the leather, is to use a press with the rubber pads? what can an amateur at home without an equipped "leatherworking shop" do? Can you use a bag and a vacuum pump? or does that only mold the inside of the leather to the weapon, and the outside details are left "blurry"? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DoubleBarP Report post Posted July 31, 2012 [Thought that I would at least get the text instructions posted out here. I am working on getting the pictures uploaded.] I have been on this forum for quite some time. I haven't posted much but I have seen several people ask about how a holster is made. I am not a professional. I pretty much do this as a very part time hobby. I thought that I would share the steps I take to design and make a holster. This particular model is my take on several makers. It is similar to Alessi's DOJ model. It has a slightly forward cant. I owe all I have learned through careful study of existing makers and many conversations with Lou Alessi. He has been a great mentor and friend in sharing his wealth of knowledge on holsters. The following are the steps I take in design and construction of a holster. 1. First I lay out the belt line. In this case it is for a 1.25" belt and therefore I lay out two parallel lines that are 1.5" apart. This allows for the belt loops to have sufficient room to allow the belt to fit. 2. I lay the gun on the paper and situate it so that the weight of the gun is balanced on the belt [not too much below the belt and not too much above the belt]. This usually equates to the belt running across the trigger guard and part of the breech of the barrel (as seen in the picture). 3. I trace the outline of the gun onto the paper. 4. I lay out the design of the holster and allow "margins" for the space of stitching and allowance for the thickness of the leather. In this case, being an OWB, I am using 7/8 oz leather with an exotic overlay that is 2/3 oz. (This was a learning curve as I have never used exotic before, next time I will use 4/5 oz with the exotic). Typically I will allow about a 1/4" around the edges of the gun and the belt loops. The belt loop needs to be far enough away from the gun so that it can be used, yet not too far away that it wont pull the butt of the gun into your side for concealability (if that is what you are looking for). One other consideration is that the holster should provide adequate coverage of the trigger area and the mag release but yet not interfere with the ability to grip the gun to remove it from the holster. As for the sweat guard, I like to make mine cover the back end of the slide and be forward enough to cover the edges of the rear sight. 5. Here I have cut out the pattern and will trace onto another sheet to make a mirror of the pattern so it will be 3D. 6. Here I have flipped the pattern. In laying this out I allow about a 1/2" space at the bottom and will overlap the patter where the mouth of the holster will wrap around the gun (which will be at the base of the sweat guard). 7. Here is the full pattern. 8. I trace the full pattern onto cardboard. Any typical cardboard box will do. The cardboard comes in handy because it is a pretty good simulator of leather in thickness and will give you a good idea of how your holster is going to fit. 9. The cardboard pattern cut out. After cutting out the pattern I will take a blunt object and "breakdown" the honeycomb of the cardboard so that it is more flexible and I can see how the holster is going to fit. 10. This picture shows how the holster is going to fit. 11. Now that I have seen how the cardboard holster fits, I lay out the mouth reinforcement and the belt loop again allowing for the 1.25” belt the stitching marks (which are the inside lines) are about 2” apart. 12. I trace the cardboard pattern onto the leather and cut it out with shears. Make sure that you lay the pattern on the leather correctly for right/left hand use and whether you want the rough [flesh] side inside or outside. In the past I used a razor knife, but I have found that shears work better for me. In the tight curves though I still have to use a razor knife. Also, the shears I use are a pair of straight cut (yellow handle) aluminum shears, I find that they have better leverage and make cutting very easy. 13. This picture shows a couple steps later. Pictures would not have shown much. I have cut out the elephant and glued it to the flesh side of the cow hide so the smooth side is inside. I have also cut out the mouth/belt loop support piece and glued it together. Also in this picture you can see that I have laid out the stiching and drilled the holes. The spacing of the stitches is laid out using a stitch spacer wheel tool with the 5 stitch per inch spacer. I hand stitch with a saddle stitch. I have found that drilling holes is easier and more uniform than punching the holes. The stitching is laid out on an 1/8" from the edge. I drilled the holes with an 5/64" drill bit because it fits my needle. 14. The next step is waxing and slicking the edges that are not stitched, the mouth and muzzle area of the holster. To wax the edges I melt and use hot parafin wax and use a small brush to appy the hot wax to the edges. I then use a slicker chucked in a homemade belt driven mandrel. (Sorry, I could not get a good picture of the edge) 15. I have prepared the inside edges of the belt loop area for gluing. I use a rasp to rough up the surface to make it better for the adhering of the surfaces. I have died the inside of the holster leather now with Angelus Pro Dye using a dauber. 16. After applying the glue I place the glued area of the holster in a bench vise between two pieces of wood while the glue dries overnight. 17. Here is a picture of the holster glued together. 18. Here I have placed some blue painters tape on the area of the holster where I am going to lay out the stitching. I typically use a 1/4" margin around the form of the gun to allow enough space for the gun inside the holster. 19. Here you can see that I have made a mark 1/4" from the edge of the trigger guard. 20. I complete the layout of the stitching around the edge of the gun and mark the edge stitching again 1/8" from the edge. 21. Now that the stitching is done, I mold the holster. I typically dunk the holster for about 20-30 seconds in about a gallon of hot water (about 120 deg) with a drop of dish soap (this helps break surface tension of the water and allows it to penetrate better). The leather should not be saturated but should be "cased". To me this means damp to the touch and will stretch or form with not much effort. 22. If the gun you are using is real for the molding I typically wrap the gun in plastic wrap before placing it inside the holster. If you are using a dummy gun then just place the gun inside the holster. I have just started using the rubber "plates" in a press. I have not yet quite figured this out but it will get better in time. Also at this time you will want to place a 'wedge' of sorts extending from the front sight back towards the breech of the barrel to create a tunnel for the front sight so that it does not pick up any leather as it is removed from the holster which would impede on the use of the front sight. In this particular holster I did not use this as the natural bend in the leather created its own tunnel. This is typically not the case and you will want to create a tunnel for the front sight. 23. After molding the holster any 'boning' can be done. On this particular holster I did not do any boning. 24. After boning remove the gun from the holster and let it dry overnight. 25. Now punch the belt loop holes. I punch a hole at each end of the slot and then use a knife to cut between the two. I then use a dremel with a smooth grit sanding drum to finish the edges. 26. Now finish all of the remaining edges with the wax and burnish. 27. Last step is to apply an acrylic finish. In this case I used a spray can of Leather Sheen. Well, there you have it. I think I covered everything. Like I said, I am no professional, so hopefully this will conjure up some conversation and others will kick in their tips and tricks. My main goal was to get a visual reference out here and somehow put it to words. As a novice just starting out building holsters I think the information you provided is very helpful, The photo illustratoins are excellent. I'm wondering if you would be able to put this into a pdf or word document so I could be printed out. I tried the cut and paste but the text becomes unreadable.... Dont want to impose further. Just dont have a computer on my bench to referr back... thanks DBP Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryankim3612 Report post Posted January 1, 2013 I've been lurking for a lil bit and learning alot, but with this post I realized that I need to contribute........... Since I know nothing, I paid for a "subscription" and Paypal'd it in. Mattsh: Thank You for posting this great information. Your a Classy gent. Ryan Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mattsh Report post Posted January 2, 2013 Ryan - thanks DBP - I have not forgotten your request - gotta find time to put it all together Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChrisTopherloaf Report post Posted January 5, 2013 Man, my first holster was done pretty much the exact same way. Except I made it too small the first time and I don't have a lining material...because I'm cheap. Here's a few photos. Forgive my stealing my own parts off the holster but I needed the clip on it. I never got around to finishing the edges all the way due to that fact. It's rough, I wanted to first and foremost see if I could make a holster to carry. I probably could if I left the clip on it. Either way, here are some photos: Great tutorial. Chris Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gordon Report post Posted October 21, 2016 How much do you allow for the width of of gun. I'm looking at a Ruger Security Six it's 1.5. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CaptQuirk Report post Posted October 21, 2016 2 hours ago, Gordon said: How much do you allow for the width of of gun. I'm looking at a Ruger Security Six it's 1.5. The trick I learned, was to take a 1" strap of leather that is roughly the same thickness as what you will use. At one end, measure off a 1/2" (I use 3/4"), and draw a line across the width of the strap. Lay the pistol on top of the strap, with the bottom of the trigger guard on the line. Fold the strap over the pistol so that it hugs the curves, and mark the strap where it meets the bottom edge below your your half inch mark. Measure the distance between the second mark you made, and the bottom edge of the strap. That is how wide you need to make the holster pattern. You can also use this method for measuring the barrel. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites