Members Darren Brosowski Posted September 10, 2014 Members Report Posted September 10, 2014 I had high hopes but low expectations of the Singer 45k25 built in India. Up until this the worst machine I have ever had was a Chinese built 15k that looked great but didn't work at all. The 45k sort of works but looks like shit and has so many issues but it qualifies as the worst machine I have ever seen. Yes, there are some parts that can be used to fix a Singer 45k but overall it is horrible. If you see one advertised online then do yourself a favour and ignore it. Quote
CowboyBob Posted September 10, 2014 Report Posted September 10, 2014 If it's worse than the China 15K then that's pretty bad !! I was hoping that it was going to be a decent machine! Maybe in 20 or so years they can fix it? Quote Bob Kovar Toledo Industrial Sewing Machine Sales Ltd. 3631 Marine Rd Toledo,Ohio 43609 1-866-362-7397
Members Darren Brosowski Posted September 10, 2014 Author Members Report Posted September 10, 2014 In the same shipment I have an Indian 15k (very good), Pfaff 130 style (pretty good) and Singer114 (OK - ish) but the 45 is horrible. They have not even cleaned out the casting sand in the top half of the body!!!!!! They started out with the original Singer tooling but have gone backwards in the last 50 years so I think they will be worse in 20 years time. Some parts are ok and I have ordered a number of parts kits as I can use many parts in my workshop. Unfortunately I cannot put most on the open market as I need to individually fit them to machines. The feed crank and adjustment mech is going into a Singer 45k25 I have here. Have ground all of the nasty sharp bits out of the body and when it is fully cleaned up I will convert it to a darner for horse rugs. The needle plates can be used after some mods so they are also on order. I needed to slow down a GA5 and the balance wheel fits perfectly. If it's worse than the China 15K then that's pretty bad !! I was hoping that it was going to be a decent machine! Maybe in 20 or so years they can fix it? Quote
Members Constabulary Posted September 10, 2014 Members Report Posted September 10, 2014 I wonder why you import things like Indian made clones of domestic Singer 15k or Pfaff 130? Are there so few sewing machines in Down Under? Quote ~ Keep "OLD CAST IRON" alive - it´s worth it ~ Machines in use: - Singer 111G156 - Singer 307G2 - Singer 29K71 - Singer 212G141 - Singer 45D91 - Singer 132K6 - Singer 108W20 - Singer 51WSV2 - Singer 143W2
Members Darren Brosowski Posted September 11, 2014 Author Members Report Posted September 11, 2014 There are lots of cars in Europe but you keep importing low tech ones from India and China. I wonder why you import things like Indian made clones of domestic Singer 15k or Pfaff 130? Are there so few sewing machines in Down Under? Quote
Members Constabulary Posted September 11, 2014 Members Report Posted September 11, 2014 not sure what you mean.... Quote ~ Keep "OLD CAST IRON" alive - it´s worth it ~ Machines in use: - Singer 111G156 - Singer 307G2 - Singer 29K71 - Singer 212G141 - Singer 45D91 - Singer 132K6 - Singer 108W20 - Singer 51WSV2 - Singer 143W2
Members Darren Brosowski Posted September 14, 2014 Author Members Report Posted September 14, 2014 The machines I have brought in are brand new and my business partner and I specialise in vintage machines. The Indian 130 has been modified from the original design to do excellent (we hope) free motion embroidery so it has potential if the machine quality is ok. Dozens of companies are importing shit quality plastic domestic sewing machines so why can't I throw a couple of new build cast iron machines into the mix? not sure what you mean.... Quote
Members Constabulary Posted September 14, 2014 Members Report Posted September 14, 2014 Darren, you can import what ever you want as it is your business but the world is full of vintage cast iron domestic machines made by Singer, Paff and dozens of other brands. I don´t know how many millions of (functional) cast iron sewing machines are still out there. So I just don´t see the need for new made in India cast iron domestic sewing machines with a vintage look. No question that there is a lot of plastic junk out there but honestly... Cast iron sewing machines of obsolete models made in India? I cannot image that people would ask for them. But we don´t have to discuss this as it is your business and I wish you luck with it - I mean it! Quote ~ Keep "OLD CAST IRON" alive - it´s worth it ~ Machines in use: - Singer 111G156 - Singer 307G2 - Singer 29K71 - Singer 212G141 - Singer 45D91 - Singer 132K6 - Singer 108W20 - Singer 51WSV2 - Singer 143W2
Members billybopp Posted September 14, 2014 Members Report Posted September 14, 2014 For my part, I'm all for the reproductions. Maybe people will buy those and reduce the demand for the old good stuff, meaning that we can buy those old beauties for less $$. Bill Quote
Members Darren Brosowski Posted September 15, 2014 Author Members Report Posted September 15, 2014 Bill they are not reproductions. These machines are made from original Singer/Pfaff tooling and drawings. The problem is that sloppy Indian practices have led to everything becoming corrupted over time...... There is something of a revival of interest in old machines in Australia and I would like to think I am helping it along by supplying new parts. For my part, I'm all for the reproductions. Maybe people will buy those and reduce the demand for the old good stuff, meaning that we can buy those old beauties for less $$. Bill Quote
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