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Can you get your finger under the leather and onto the trigger enough to make the hammer/striker fall?

While that is probably the main question one could also check to see if the gun falls free when the holster is inverted-gun down toward floor. The gun should NOT fall free.

Then there is the other kind of safe: with the holster on the users belt in the proper position, can the gun be readily drawn?

From my position these are question you must answer yourself. Do you have doubts? It looks like a serviceable holster as far as one can tell from a photographs.

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Really just looking for a thumbs up or thumbs down..................but that is an outstanding way to judge the holster, Very helpful,,, thank you

Amarillo Texas

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Thumbs up from here. I wouldn't want the trigger area boned in any more or you might get an ugly surprise when you re-holster, but as far as coverage goes, I think that's plenty.

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I like jus a little more where possible.. not so much for trigger as for balance. Looks like that would work, though

JLS  "Observation is 9/10 of the law."

IF what you do is something that ANYBODY can do, then don't be surprised when ANYBODY does.

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When I bone a striker fired pistol, . . . I never go as deep in the trigger guard as you did.

That looks like an XD which also has a grip safety, . . . but the Glocks and others don't, . . . and anything in there, including an errant piece of the holster, . . . can trip the trigger, . . . and that will ruin the whole day.

But, . . . that's just my policy, . . . if the buyer wants something else, . . . I send him somewhere else.

May God bless,

Dwight

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I'm aware the OP wants an 'up' or 'down'. From photographs no holsters 'safety' can be determined. There is no sure way to determine the actual depth of your boning-in inside the trigger guard from the photographs. He doesn't show the inside for inspection. I could give an opinion but "they are like certain types of oriface-everyone's got one". I've seen people safely carry with far less holster and I seen folk carry unsafely with far more holster. Safety as a 'whole' concept/thought process/activity does not reside entirely in the holster; I doubt more than a small fraction of 'safety' resides 'in the holster'. You, as the maker, must make the safety decision on your ware yourself. Logically and legally the person using the holster is responsible for it's serviceability and safe use.


I've got a safe full of Xds and Glocks all of which have that two piece trigger. And I think am sure every one needs the center part fully depressed before the trigger will depress. On the subject, all my M&Ps including the Shields have variants on the two piece trigger (and manual thumb safety on the slide) to prevent AD.

There is considerable lee-way for boning-in the trigger guard; and one would need to bone-in the trigger itself to reach the center bar on the first group of handguns. That's a lot of acute angles to accommodate with a material possessing a natural 'spring'. As for the M&Ps there is that other safety that should be engaged! Of course as a maker one should insure the serviceability of the 'inside' of the holster along with all other makers responsibilities.

Carrying a loaded handgun is not something trivial. As a holster maker I like to see a potential customer handle the gun (safely) before I take an order--hard to do over the internet. So I lifted portions of both Galco and Bianchi's disclaimer documents included with their wares. Jamming a gun into a damaged, or obstructed holster is the responsibility of the person handling the gun. Carrying a loaded gun is, likewise first last and foremost, the responsibility of the person handling the gun. My responsibilities end with a serviceable product. Weather or not this protects me has yet to be determined.

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I dont post a lot, but I read a lot here. ANd it it really amazes me both in what I learn and then in what I realize that I do not know........I would never have considered the boning in of the trigger guard until reading the comments here. I don't mind not knowing things, but not knowing things like the boning in comments on the trigger guards.........thats scary ....really. thanks fro the comments

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I'll be the first to say it was a freak accident, . . . one in a million at least, . . . but it happened.

An elderly guy had a striker fired pistol, . . . and a badly worn leather holster. He sat down in his car (passenger side) and somewhere in the wiggling around getting seated and getting the seat belt all cinched up, . . . a piece of the worn holster slipped into the trigger guard and fired his weapon for him, . . . while he was seated.

IIRC, . . . he was lightly wounded, . . . hole in the seat, . . . hole in the bottom of the car.

Literally hundreds of thousands of those weapons are used each day around the world without incident, . . . but there is the opportunity, . . . much worse than say a Python (revolver) or a 1911 (pistol) as other examples.

That is why I am extra careful around striker fired weapons when I make a holster for one.

May God bless,

Dwight

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