Verlane Desgrange Tutorials

[CitizenKate]

I bought a little extra time before getting 86'ed over there so I am trying to keep that cash flow coming in to finance more leather working equipment!!

I would say your priorities are in the right place!

Kate

[tashabear]

{snip}

She said publishing a book was very costly, and she was considering something like a CD, DVD or download. Her problem with this was keeping it from being copied and just passed on. That makes me think that she possibly had intentions of selling the collection of information. Every PDF page I ever saw from her did contain her copyright. {snip}

Doesn't have to be anymore, with print-on-demand services like lulu.com out there. Her estate could upload her writings and make them available for sale.

[Admin]

I spoke with Verlane's sister today and explained our concerns. She said that she didn't mind individual files being shared between members as subjects came up, but that she does not want anyone to make a compilation of Verlane's material and put it on the Internet. She also expects that no one attempts to make a profit off of it. If the estate decides to make a CD/DVD/book available, LW will let you know how to get it, meanwhile, please be respectful of the copyright and do not abuse the gracious way Verlane's family has agreed to continue to share her lessons and tutorials. Failure to abide will result in possible legal action and a permanent ban from LW. Thank you for your cooperation.

Johanna

[Bree]

I spoke with Verlane's sister today and explained our concerns. She said that she didn't mind individual files being shared between members as subjects came up, but that she does not want anyone to make a compilation of Verlane's material and put it on the Internet. She also expects that no one attempts to make a profit off of it. If the estate decides to make a CD/DVD/book available, LW will let you know how to get it, meanwhile, please be respectful of the copyright and do not abuse the gracious way Verlane's family has agreed to continue to share her lessons and tutorials. Failure to abide will result in possible legal action and a permanent ban from LW. Thank you for your cooperation.

Johanna

So maybe you want to remove this thread and the link to classicbells.com since that site appears to be going against her wishes. They aren't making money from it but they do have a compilation.

[equiss]

I can't get the URL to work, just keeps saying it is unavailable, or 404 can not be found - any ideas?

[tashabear]

I can't get the URL to work, just keeps saying it is unavailable, or 404 can not be found - any ideas?

It's probably been taken down in respect of Verlane's family's wishes.

[DeeAnna]

Just found this discussion today. Funny ... I don't recall getting an invitation to present my side of the matter at the time this thread was active. Oh, well ... better late than never!

Verlane's tutorials have always been available on my website after her death in 2007. I did a major upgrade and update to my website in spring of 2008. At that time, the addresses of most of my webpages changed, which is why the "404" error came up for Equiss in December of 2008. If she'd thought to ask me, I would have been happy to help. The current location of Verlane's tutorials is http:// classicbells.com/ info/ Verlane.html (remove the spaces). And if I someday do another major update and this URL doesn't work, go to the root URL of http://classicbells.com and hunt around. Or send me an email at info @ classicbells.com (remove the spaces) and just ask, okay?

It's now been about 8 years since Verlane's passing, and I have maintained this archive of tutorials for all these years, along with a full disclosure about the origin and ownership of the tutorials. Verlane's family has not done anything to my knowledge about making her works available in any form, paper or e-book, free or paid. I suspect matters will not change in another 8 years from the tidbits I've gathered over the years. Leather work was HER passion, not her family's. It will take other people who are passionate about leather working to resurrect her legacy and work to make it available to the world. I'm still willing to help, but I don't have access to all of her works, nor do I know anyone in the family. Several others who have spoken to me about preserving Verlane's legacy and who do have some connection to the family have not had any success contacting them either.

I have not and will not put anything on my website that Verlane sold, such as her book The Treasury of English Saddlery. But she freely shared her teaching tutorials with anyone who wanted to learn what she had to offer. If it weren't for these tutorials being available on my website (public) and on the IILG website (members-only section), all of this knowledge would be unavailable to others and probably forever. I am certain it would sadden her greatly to know that her knowledge was not being used to educate and enlighten others.

I'd love it if someone would republish all of her work. If that day ever comes, I will gladly remove the tutorials from my website and direct others to the published versions. Until then ... I invite you to browse Verlane's tutorials on my website, learn and benefit from her teaching and experience, and use this knowlege to do superb leather work and to pass on her legacy to others.

Regards, DeeAnna Weed

Edited July 2, 2015 by DeeAnna

[Art]

Just found this discussion today. Funny ... I don't recall getting an invitation to present my side of the matter at the time this thread was active. Oh, well ... better late than never!

Verlane's tutorials have always been available on my website after her death in 2007. I did a major upgrade and update to my website in spring of 2008. At that time, the addresses of most of my webpages changed, which is why the "404" error came up for Equiss in December of 2008. If she'd thought to ask me, I would have been happy to help. The current location of Verlane's tutorials is http:// classicbells.com/ info/ Verlane.html (remove the spaces). And if I someday do another major update and this URL doesn't work, go to the root URL of http://classicbells.com and hunt around. Or send me an email at info @ classicbells.com (remove the spaces) and just ask, okay?

It's now been about 8 years since Verlane's passing, and I have maintained this archive of tutorials for all these years, along with a full disclosure about the origin and ownership of the tutorials. Verlane's family has not done anything to my knowledge about making her works available in any form, paper or e-book, free or paid. I suspect matters will not change in another 8 years from the tidbits I've gathered over the years. Leather work was HER passion, not her family's. It will take other people who are passionate about leather working to resurrect her legacy and work to make it available to the world. I'm still willing to help, but I don't have access to all of her works, nor do I know anyone in the family. Several others who have spoken to me about preserving Verlane's legacy and who do have some connection to the family have not had any success contacting them either.

I have not and will not put anything on my website that Verlane sold, such as her book The Treasury of English Saddlery. But she freely shared her teaching tutorials with anyone who wanted to learn what she had to offer. If it weren't for these tutorials being available on my website (public) and on the IILG website (members-only section), all of this knowledge would be unavailable to others and probably forever. I am certain it would sadden her greatly to know that her knowledge was not being used to educate and enlighten others.

I'd love it if someone would republish all of her work. If that day ever comes, I will gladly remove the tutorials from my website and direct others to the published versions. Until then ... I invite you to browse Verlane's tutorials on my website, learn and benefit from her teaching and experience, and use this knowlege to do superb leather work and to pass on her legacy to others.

Regards, DeeAnna Weed

Hi DeeAnna,

I edited and posted the corrected link in Bree's first post in this thread. When folks click on the thread, they will land there first, so first or last, they will get the link.

Link to Verlane Desgrange downloads on Classic Bells Site.

Thanks,

Art