toolleather Report post Posted December 5, 2014 Hello Everyone, I asked this question in another thread, but have yet to receive any responses, maybe someone can assist in this thread. I received a request to make a replacement holster for a Smith & Wesson VE9. Now I've never made a holster before, so this will be my first one and I want to do a great job, but I can't seem to find any patterns for a thumb break for this model gun on line. I'm wanting to do this in either an Avenger style holster or the (pic) link down below. Any Ideas?? Thanks This is similar to what I would like to make: http://www.warriorde...-hand-md-22900/ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
emcniel Report post Posted December 5, 2014 The only thumb break holsters I have are pancake style. Nothing like the example you posted Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
King's X Report post Posted December 5, 2014 (edited) Have you tried YouTube? This is what I found on Google with the search of what you are looking for. Good luck https://www.etsy.com/market/avenger_holster http://www.adamsleatherworks.com/shop/leather-holster-pattern-avenger-sig-p238/ http://hepartwarce.blog.com/2013/11/02/leather-holster-patterns/ Edited December 5, 2014 by King's X Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
toolleather Report post Posted December 5, 2014 Thanks, I saw that one and it kind of helped a bit, I guess my frustration is that my measurements are fine on my patterns, but then once I get them on leather it's a bit too tight, I have to just keep adjusting and add a bit to account for the leather thickness. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
camano ridge Report post Posted December 5, 2014 I will look and see if I have a pattern for that one. However a couple of ideas, do you have the gun? You said this is a replacement holster, do you have access to that holster that you can use as a pattern? You said when you apply the pattern to the leather it is tight. If you have the gun or a dummy gun I assume you will wet mold when you make the holster. If so you want the holster tight enough that you have to force the gun into the holster. THe leather will stretch and form around the holster. Someone else on these forums was recently making a holster for this gun. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
toolleather Report post Posted December 6, 2014 No, I do not have the gun, but I purchased a model blue gun for it, but upon reading some of the comments in the forums about the blue guns, it seems that they may not be exact to the original, so I don't want it to end up being too small. Like I said, this is my first attempt at making a holster. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Busterradar Report post Posted December 6, 2014 I use blue guns. I make my holsters so they are tight.....leather will give a little in time. Hope this helps. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
camano ridge Report post Posted December 6, 2014 (edited) The only blue guns that I know of that has caused much problem is some of the GLocks. Your blue gun should not be a problem I have over 100 dummy guns and have had very few problems with any of them. As long as the gun seats fully it is okay if it is tight it will loosen up as it breaks in. If it is to tight after the holster has dried puit the gun or the dummy in a zip loc freezer bag then put the gun bag and all into the holster seat it and let it sit overnight. Remove the gun from the bag and re insert into the holster it should feel better. What you don't want is for the gun to sit loosely in the holster even with a thumb break. Who did you order your S&W Ve 9 from. The only one that I found that currently makes a mold for the Ve 9 is Multimolds. If you did get a multi mold be aware they are made primarily for kydex molding. For leather depending on how detailed molding you want to do. You may want to remove the sight chanel and open the ejection port a little. Edited December 6, 2014 by camano ridge Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TwinOaks Report post Posted December 6, 2014 When laying out the strap sections for the retention strap, cut it LONG..by at least an inch. That gives you plenty of room for adjustment...once the dummy is in the holster. If you need a thumb break tab (to stiffen the part where the thumb hits), cut an oval out of kydex. The SS ones are the best, but if this is a one off piece, you probably won't want to purchase just one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
toolleather Report post Posted December 8, 2014 Thanks for the help everyone, I purchased the stiffeners from the blue gun store, and have readjusted my pattern a bit, so we shall see what I come out with. One other question I have thought is, where can I purchase the tensioners I see on many holsters and are they really needed? The gentleman I'm making the replacement for has one on his current holster, and I wanted it to be as similar to what he already has. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
camano ridge Report post Posted December 8, 2014 (edited) If you are refeirng to something like pictured below. It is just a tee nut or chicago screw base, a screw, a cup or finish washer and a piece of rubber gas line hose or similar hose. As you tighten the screw it compresses the hose. The Tee nut will work best as the Chicago screw may rotate when you try to tighten the tension. They are used a lot on kydex holsters. However with a leather holster if they are tightly stitched and properly molded you really don't need a tension screw. Unless you are trying to make a generic holster to fit a couple different gun models or brands. Edited December 8, 2014 by camano ridge Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
srtolly Report post Posted December 17, 2014 I've made a few for the SW9VE. Pancake and avenger with a thumb break. I made a video on the avenger. I'll dig this weekend and see if I can find the pattern. I also have an IWB that I can easily adapt to a thumb break. I've made a few for the SW9VE. Pancake and avenger with a thumb break. I made a video on the avenger. I'll dig this weekend and see if I can find the pattern. I also have an IWB that I can easily adapt to a thumb break. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites