Cowboy Cb3200 Or An Artisan 3200 ?

[GaryNunn]

I wanted to follow-up on my original post. I ultimately went with the Cowboy 3200 from Toledo Industrial Sewing Machines. My son and I went to pick it up, and Bob spent time familiarizing me with the machine. As has been my previous experiences with Bob, his customer service is exceptional.

The Cowboy 3200 has far exceeded my expectations. Someone suggested that I should go with the Cowboy 4500 in case I decide to do thicker materials. I agree 100%, but I was trying to find that balance of getting a machine to get into production right away verses waiting another 6 months to gather funds.

I'm sure other machines (and vendors) would have worked as well, but Bob / Toledo industrial is within a few hours drive if I were to need emergency service or help and my past experiences with them have been good.

Thanks everyone for the input and suggestions, it was the input here that steered me toward the Cowboy 3200.

Edited June 12, 2015 by GaryNunn

[Gregg From Keystone Sewing]

Gary,

Good to hear about your positive experience. Anyone can sell you a machine, but everybody is looking for service. Our business has always been like that, now more than ever.

[scorpionrider]

Not sure if this is right thread to post my question in, but based on above comments and lot of other hours of research I have decided to buy a Cowboy CB3200 around the first week of August. My only reservation is whether to stay switch the table or spend the extra $100 on the stand. What are the advantages of paying the extra money? I have a bad back and will be sewing sitting down. Size of footprint is also a consideration, but being able to stand to sew and taking up a little less space does not, to me, warrant the extra cost. So, what other advantages are there to the pedestal? Oh, yeah, you should know I am a complete newbie to sewing machines. Thanks for any input.

crd

[Art]

If you have a cylinder arm, it indicates you might be sewing things that need a little "man handling" (should I have said finessing, ladies?). The extra floor clearance is helpful also. We find that a barstool ot tall swivel chair really works well with the taller stands usually shipped with these machines. For use sewing general leatherwork, the taller stand seems a little better for us. In a pure production setting, you are sewing usually one particular thing where you set the stand at the most advantageous height.

Art

[scorpionrider]

Yes, most of my work will be gun belts and holsters. Thanks Art for the information. Will use in my deliberations.

crd

[msdeluca]

Not sure if this is right thread to post my question in, but based on above comments and lot of other hours of research I have decided to buy a Cowboy CB3200 around the first week of August. My only reservation is whether to stay switch the table or spend the extra $100 on the stand. What are the advantages of paying the extra money? I have a bad back and will be sewing sitting down. Size of footprint is also a consideration, but being able to stand to sew and taking up a little less space does not, to me, warrant the extra cost. So, what other advantages are there to the pedestal? Oh, yeah, you should know I am a complete newbie to sewing machines. Thanks for any input.

crd

Due to space restraints, I went with the stand. I had to modify the stand so that I could still use a chair which worked with my desk, my table, and my drawing board. The pedals are not in the right place for a chair so I had to redesign them and move the post that supports the machine closer to my chair. It works great for me now. I posted a tutorial on my blog about it if you are interested.

[scorpionrider]

Awesome msdeluca. Yes, if you would be willing to post the plans I would greatly appreciate it. Or, if you prefer you can send them to me at "warc at cox dot net".

Edited August 9, 2015 by Art
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[CowboyBob]

It would of been easier to flip the lower plate & it would put the pedals toward(no drilling & you can use the same pedals) the back.Also when working on the table like this I would recommend taking the

head off the stand,one little mistake & you might have to pick it up off the floor & hopefully it

wouldn't land on a toe.

[scorpionrider]

Thanks for your input CowboyBob. I think I see what you are saying, my question is how are the wheels attached? Will flipping the lower plate have any effect on fastening them?

Thank you.

crd

[CowboyBob]

They just screw on and can be put on the otherside too.