esantoro Posted November 24, 2008 Report Posted November 24, 2008 I just got some tan kote and like the results. I've tried bag kote on some chrome tan and latigo. It appears that bag kote is only for veg tan. The label states as much. I received tan kote today and tried it on some scraps of chrome tan and latigo, and it works well. Does anyone else use tan kote on chrome tan? Do you think tan kote and bag kote for veg tan should be the final stage in leather prepping? Usually the final stage for me is a coat or two of aussie wax or something similar. Should I be applying bag or tan kote over the aussie wax or under. Experience tells me to apply Aussie Wax or similar last. ed Quote
Members antipaladin Posted November 24, 2008 Members Report Posted November 24, 2008 Hi Ed, Have you ever used the blocks of 100% Carnuba wax in treating any of your leather? Quote
esantoro Posted November 24, 2008 Author Report Posted November 24, 2008 Hi Ed,Have you ever used the blocks of 100% Carnuba wax in treating any of your leather? I've got Carnauba cream and have been wondering about ways to work this into my regimen. It seems to be taking a back seat to everything else I have. I have not tried solid blocks of 100 percent Carnauba wax. Do you suggest it for all smooth leathers, or just veg tan? Quote
Contributing Member TwinOaks Posted November 25, 2008 Contributing Member Report Posted November 25, 2008 On several strap related items such as belts or stirrup straps, I've saturated the leather with carnuba cream, waited until it was all soaked up, then coated with Aussie. My dad has a 40 year old belt that he made for his father. It was treated similarly, using Neat-lac as the top coat. After daily use by my grandfather (RIP) it's STILL pliable and in good condition. As for Tan-Kote, I've not experimented with application over Aussie, but Aussie seems to go over IT pretty well. Quote
esantoro Posted December 27, 2008 Author Report Posted December 27, 2008 I'm finishing up a bag of milled leather and am thinking of giving it a coat of Aussie Wax and then a coat or two of bag kote. The bottle of Bag Kote reads that it is only for veg tan. Have any of you ever used bag kote on milled or chrome tanned leather? ed Quote
Ian Posted December 27, 2008 Report Posted December 27, 2008 Ed, most chrome tanned leather apart from naked leather has a finish already sprayed on, but if you're just looking for a nice buffable shine, Leather Balm works well and the finish is very rich looking. Quote
esantoro Posted December 27, 2008 Author Report Posted December 27, 2008 Ed, most chrome tanned leather apart from naked leather has a finish already sprayed on, but if you're just looking for a nice buffable shine, Leather Balm works well and the finish is very rich looking. Thanks, Ian. Do you think Leather Balm over Aussie Wax that has set in for 24 hours would work well? I'll try some LB on some scrap. I will soon be trying Tuff Cote and Top Coat #200 from LCI by way of Weaver and will give my report. Ed Quote
Ian Posted December 27, 2008 Report Posted December 27, 2008 Thanks, Ian. Do you think Leather Balm over Aussie Wax that has set in for 24 hours would work well? I'll try some LB on some scrap. I will soon be trying Tuff Cote and Top Coat #200 from LCI by way of Weaver and will give my report.Ed Ed, I'm not sure why you'd need to use Aussie Wax on chrome tanned leather unless you're just going after the shine. Like I say chrome tanned leather usually has a finish, and you can find the finished look you're after already applied, from low gloss to high shine, and you don't need a top coat in addition to what's already there. Think of a new leather jacket. It has a tannery applied top coat that will last for many years with minimal care. Quote
esantoro Posted December 27, 2008 Author Report Posted December 27, 2008 Ed, I'm not sure why you'd need to use Aussie Wax on chrome tanned leather unless you're just going after the shine. Like I say chrome tanned leather usually has a finish, and you can find the finished look you're after already applied, from low gloss to high shine, and you don't need a top coat in addition to what's already there. Think of a new leather jacket. It has a tannery applied top coat that will last for many years with minimal care. I like the Aussie Wax for conditioning and weatherproofing and the bag kote for its non-smudging finish. I have before and after photos I'll post shortly. Ed Quote
esantoro Posted December 28, 2008 Author Report Posted December 28, 2008 Here are before and after photos of the latest Maverick. Ed Quote
Members Shorts Posted December 31, 2008 Members Report Posted December 31, 2008 Here are before and after photos of the latest Maverick.Ed Ed, that is beautiful What was the final decision on products for this one? Quote
esantoro Posted January 22, 2009 Author Report Posted January 22, 2009 Ed, that is beautiful What was the final decision on products for this one? The final finish for this bag was Bag Kote. But now I've moved on to Tuff Kote. ed Quote
Bree Posted January 22, 2009 Report Posted January 22, 2009 Hi Ed,Have you ever used the blocks of 100% Carnuba wax in treating any of your leather? I have a block of 100% Carauba wax and it is as hard as a rock. I doubt that it would be useful for treating leather in that pure form. I think it has to be blended with something else at least to allow it to be applied. The only way you will get it onto leather in pure form is to melt it on. Quote
Members Randy Cornelius Posted January 22, 2009 Members Report Posted January 22, 2009 I had an old saddlemaker tell me this years ago, unknown how accurate it is. #1 Harness dressing deluted 50% with water is equal to Tan Kote Tan Kote deluted 50% with water is equal to Bag Kote. I have yet to find any supplier that lists #1 harness dressing. Someone let me know if they see it somewhere. Randy Quote
esantoro Posted January 22, 2009 Author Report Posted January 22, 2009 I had an old saddlemaker tell me this years ago, unknown how accurate it is.#1 Harness dressing deluted 50% with water is equal to Tan Kote Tan Kote deluted 50% with water is equal to Bag Kote. I have yet to find any supplier that lists #1 harness dressing. Someone let me know if they see it somewhere. Randy Is this #1 Harness Dressing what Weaver leather sells as "Harness Dressing"? Ed Quote
esantoro Posted January 22, 2009 Author Report Posted January 22, 2009 Just got off the phone with Vernon at Weaver Leather. He says they use Tuff Kote on nearly anything. He also said they had tried everything Fiebings has and that nothing compares to TK. I asked about harness dressing. He said don't bother and to stick with TK. ed Quote
MADMAX22 Posted January 22, 2009 Report Posted January 22, 2009 Thanks for the info, Ill have to try some out. Good leg work esantoro Quote
esantoro Posted January 23, 2009 Author Report Posted January 23, 2009 Since I'm now using Tuff Kote for a finish, is it possible to apply Aussie Wax over the finish, or should it be applied under the finish? Depending on the leather, I usually like to do an application of neatsfoot oil, then a coat or two of Aussie Wax. Ed Quote
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