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Hi.

New to the forum.

I have some questions about a very old Singer machine, and someone recommended me this forum.

What I have found out is that it is a 1893 model,, the serial number is 11400037, and that it is called a "patcher". And thats about it.

I got it from a old shoe maker/saddle maker shop, and I have reasons to belive that it was in use up to the 1960's.

It seems to be in fairly good order, but are of course in need of some TLC.

So, to the question: Does anyone here have some more info about this machine, anything would be appreciated. I recon that user manuals and/or spare parts lists is to much to hope for.....

Oh, by the way. Im norwegian, and the machine was found in Norway.

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First of all, check out a site called ISMACS, that will give you more info based on the serial number.

Except in this case, I see it doesn't. Have a read through that site anyway, it is the vintage Singer machine collector's font of all knowledge.

Singer, especially in the late 1800's happily made low run and one off machines, and your looks as if it could be based on a 45 body. Do another google, but type in Singer 45K, there are a number of sites out there that can provide every Singer owner's manual to download for free. It's probibly worth a bit of a search, as the basics such as threading, etc is fairly standard.

Sorry I can't be more specific. I'll have a little look for you later today.

 

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This is not a 45K based machine this is more a Singer 17 based machine I would say. Not a heavy duty machine.

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Right, thought it looked bigger than a 17K, but I'm probibly wrong.

Ok, google 17K, and at least you'll have a basic manual for the threading, stitch, etc

 

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Thanks for the info. I have read the ISMACS page up and down and up again without luck. And a lot of other related pages with no luck.

I got some info on another forum from an old english man who said it was what he called a patcher. It was used to make stuffed colars and such on riding shoes and neck colars and such, and it was notoriously difficult to set up and use.

After two days of searching I have still not found a single picture of a similar machine.

I am amazed over the tightness and smoothness of the mechanism after 123 years.

Edit: Note that theres no foot on it, but a brass wheel that lifts up and down when you operate the lever. I'll take some more and better pictures of it tonight.

Edit II: The place it was found has got long and proud maritime history. Is it possible that it have been used for sail making?

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Thanks for the info. I have read the ISMACS page up and down and up again without luck. And a lot of other related pages with no luck.

I got some info on another forum from an old english man who said it was what he called a patcher. It was used to make stuffed colars and such on riding shoes and neck colars and such, and it was notoriously difficult to set up and use.

After two days of searching I have still not found a single picture of a similar machine.

I am amazed over the tightness and smoothness of the mechanism after 123 years.

Edit: Note that theres no foot on it, but a brass wheel that lifts up and down when you operate the lever. I'll take some more and better pictures of it tonight.

Edit II: The place it was found has got long and proud maritime history. Is it possible that it have been used for sail making?

I forgot to mention that this is a Singer 34 or 34K.

You should find them in the ISMACS Comprehensive class list.

But this for sure is not a sail maker machine. I´d rather say a light duty machine for the shoe industries.

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Here is a Singer 34K11 I picked up last year,it has a 45K top & a large bobbin & shuttle that is aboy 3x larger than a 29K

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So am I on the wrong track? To me the machine in the 1st post looks more like a Sinker 17K than a 45K top or is the machine not a 34K?

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Posted (edited)

No,I think your correct,I'd say it's like a 17 too,the 34K weighs 122Lbs or 55kgs.That machine looks

alittle lighter.

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