Members Northman Posted July 22, 2015 Members Report Posted July 22, 2015 Hi, I am fairly new to leatherworking but i have already sold some stuff, and plan on selling more.So i have decided to purchase a leather sewing machine.I really make anything and everything but i always use veg-tanned leather, and I always do some stamping.I often use both skins and leather combined in a project.I make wallets, quivers, mittens, purses, belts, knife sheaths and any odd stuff people want.The machine needs to be able to sew two layers of 4mm thick (10 oz?) leather.Or two layers of 2 mm (5 oz?) leather plus two layers of skin.I live in sweden and there are no vendors that sells these kind of machines.I am currently looking at Techsew 2700 and Consew 206RB-5 but i am open for other options.I´d like to keep it under 2000$ if possible. Quote
Members Colt W Knight Posted July 22, 2015 Members Report Posted July 22, 2015 I have a consew 206rb and its a great machine. However, the Techsew is a cylinder arm machine, and that is way more versatile for sewing hard to reach places like bags and zippers. Quote
Moderator Art Posted July 22, 2015 Moderator Report Posted July 22, 2015 The 2700 is more versatile, however at 20 oz you are pushing the top of the envelope for that machine and the 206RB. Better to bite the bullet now and get a 441 machine like the Cowboy CB 4500 or the Techsew 5100. Later, you might want to get a 2700 and set it up for lite work. However, if you only do lite work under say 3/8", the Techsew 2700 will work out fine. No guarantees, but no matter what you buy, 441 or 2700, you probably will be able to sell it for more in Sweden than you paid for it. Art Quote For heaven's sakes pilgrim, make yourself a strop!
Members Colt W Knight Posted July 22, 2015 Members Report Posted July 22, 2015 The 2700 is more versatile, however at 20 oz you are pushing the top of the envelope for that machine and the 206RB. Better to bite the bullet now and get a 441 machine like the Cowboy CB 4500 or the Techsew 5100. Later, you might want to get a 2700 and set it up for lite work. However, if you only do lite work under say 3/8", the Techsew 2700 will work out fine. No guarantees, but no matter what you buy, 441 or 2700, you probably will be able to sell it for more in Sweden than you paid for it. Art How does the 441 clone do on light material? Quote
Moderator Art Posted July 23, 2015 Moderator Report Posted July 23, 2015 Have the seller set it up for whichever or whatever you sew the most. You can use a #22 (140Nm) needle and 92 or 138 thread, even 69 thread can work. I've seen it sew 8 oz and 6 oz all day at shows and then double and quadruple that. Art Quote For heaven's sakes pilgrim, make yourself a strop!
Members Northman Posted July 23, 2015 Author Members Report Posted July 23, 2015 The Techsew 5100 seem interesting but as Colt W Knight said, how does it do on light materials? I will probably sew more on light materials, at least for now.And do anyone have some tips regarding shipping such a big machine across seas?Art, I don´t think I'll get my money back if i'll sell it because there are no more than a handful of leatherworkers here in sweden. There are plenty of saddle makers here, but there is only one that actually make saddles occasionally that i know of. Quote
Members Constabulary Posted July 23, 2015 Members Report Posted July 23, 2015 Keep in mind that you have to pay custom fees and EU import taxes on the whole price including the shipping cost when you order from outside the EU. If unsure ask your local customs office. Quote ~ Keep "OLD CAST IRON" alive - it´s worth it ~ Machines in use: - Singer 111G156 - Singer 307G2 - Singer 29K71 - Singer 212G141 - Singer 45D91 - Singer 132K6 - Singer 108W20 - Singer 51WSV2 - Singer 143W2
Members Northman Posted July 23, 2015 Author Members Report Posted July 23, 2015 Keep in mind that you have to pay custom fees and EU import taxes on the whole price including the shipping cost when you order from outside the EU. If unsure ask your local customs office. yep i know,, it's about 30% of the total price of the machine including shipping cost. So if anyone know any good vendors inside EU i would appreciate it. Quote
Members Constabulary Posted July 23, 2015 Members Report Posted July 23, 2015 www.Sieck.de has a wider range of sewing machine but the prices on their website are w/o VAT, you have to add 19% Quote ~ Keep "OLD CAST IRON" alive - it´s worth it ~ Machines in use: - Singer 111G156 - Singer 307G2 - Singer 29K71 - Singer 212G141 - Singer 45D91 - Singer 132K6 - Singer 108W20 - Singer 51WSV2 - Singer 143W2
Members Northman Posted July 23, 2015 Author Members Report Posted July 23, 2015 (edited) www.Sieck.de has a wider range of sewing machine but the prices on their website are w/o VAT, you have to add 19% They have a lot of machines, unfortunately i only recognized one brand "Pfaff", i know that it is considered a good brand but nothing more. They don´t seem to have any of the machines that i´ve read about, like techsew or consew and there is lite info about the machines. Is there a machine you could recommend? They seem just as expensive as the consew or techsew machines and if i have to ad an extra 19% i don´t think that there would be much difference in ordering from over seas. Or am i wrong? Edited July 23, 2015 by Northman Quote
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