Help Identification Singer Or Adler Or?

[Darren Brosowski]

If you want to make buffing wheels there is a spiral stitch attachment available from your friendly Cowboy dealer.

[silverbullet]

Another one saved from the infamous scrapper hoards. Yea and amen. Clean her up and put her back to work its what she's made for.

[hyttogpine]

@ silverbullet

Another what ?

Singer or maybe Adler ?

Which class ?

What price ?

What equipment/accessories follows the machine ?

[Uwe]

Anything with a handwheel that large is worth saving from the heap.The rest is just details and I'm certainly looking forward to reports and pictures as the restoration story unfolds.

[Darren Brosowski]

Amen brother

Anything with a handwheel that large is worth saving from the heap.The rest is just details and I'm certainly looking forward to reports and pictures as the restoration story unfolds.

[sandyt]

So the machine got delivered today.

No extra's, only 4 bobins and 4 different needles. One of the needles seems to fit properly.

A short one was installed, so I don't think the machine was stitching like the seller claimed in the add.

There is only one small nut missing from the first tension disk. It seems to be not metric, so have to think of something. Mabey make a new tension disk shaft.

The type plate says 120-1.

The shuttle race (??) says simanco.

So, I still don't know what brand.

Singer 120-1 doesn't excist.

Adler 120-1 also doesn't excist.

Well there is an Adler 120-1 but thats a way newer model.

Do you guys have an idea?

Sandy.

[sandyt]

Here are the pics.

[Uwe]

Now that you have the machine in front of you, take a bunch of detailed pictures and post them here, particularly stuff with numbers or other identifying marks on it. I'm still voting for Adler due to the shape of the head.

Often parts are interchangeable between brands and models, so they may have installed a Singer race at some point because it was available and cheap. Does this machine really have two needles and shuttles?

I think there was a lot of customization going on back then, too. If you owned a factory and needed a few dozen machines to perform a special sewing operation, Singer or Adler would just build a small custom batch for you, a variation based on an existing mainstream model. There's usually no documentation for those custom-built machines. All you can hope for is figuring out what mainstream model it's related to and try to find parts that route.

[hyttogpine]

Before polish your new machin - and especially the brass plate/type plate - find a good Thread count magnifier, and try to examine the brass(?)-riveting carefully. Also from the inside ?

There are many tings in live you have to be watchful to. One of these is selsmen, especially those who try to make there living out there business/to pay their rent.

[Uwe]

Some machines have parts with numbers stamped/cast right on them. This might be a way to determine brand. Look for parts with numbers on it that are likely original to the machine (not that shuttle race) and compare the numbers to the Adler 20 or Singer 7 parts diagrams. Hopefully, you'll find enough matches to tell you with a degree of confidence whether you have an Adler or Singer (or a mix like 90% Adler with 10% Singer spare parts).

Edited December 18, 2015 by Uwe