Moderator Art Posted December 15, 2015 Moderator Report Posted December 15, 2015 Now he tells me? http://www.harborfreight.com/4-inch-magnetic-parts-tray-90566.html http://www.harborfreight.com/6-inch-magnetic-parts-holder-97825.html Art Quote For heaven's sakes pilgrim, make yourself a strop!
Members TinkerTailor Posted December 15, 2015 Author Members Report Posted December 15, 2015 On some of the clones, the bar is threaded, ghod knows what that will be, but I would call Bob first thing in the morning...I just went down and checked Both of my 441s (Highlead), 9/64-40 screws with nuts. Art Thats it, my bar is threaded. I did look over the parts diagram and the thumbscrew on the front of the machine access cover is supposed to also be 9/64-40 and it screws in to the bar perfect, it is just too short to do it with the bar in place. I am pretty sure that is the size, from what i found in a quick search, the old kenmore is the same. Btw, thanks for checking your for me. I am tempted to just drill it out and use a bigger more common bolt and nut. Not going to try to tap it bigger, that is askin for an asswhupping..... I'd call bob, but it is a techsew....... I will call Ron and see, however i still have hopes i can find another locally. Quote "If nobody shares what they know, we will eventually all know nothing." "There is no adventure in letting fear and common sense be your guide"
Moderator Art Posted December 15, 2015 Moderator Report Posted December 15, 2015 Look very carefully, sometimes (actually a lot of times) the nut is recessed into the bar so it is captured and acts like a threaded shaft. Art Quote For heaven's sakes pilgrim, make yourself a strop!
Members TinkerTailor Posted December 15, 2015 Author Members Report Posted December 15, 2015 Now he tells me? http://www.harborfreight.com/4-inch-magnetic-parts-tray-90566.html http://www.harborfreight.com/6-inch-magnetic-parts-holder-97825.html Art Since i had to have all the tendons on the back of my right hand re-attached a few years ago, i have an issue with dropping small parts. As such i have learned to be very careful. This is the one that got away. I have magnets all over my machine to stick screws to. I did stick it there. I was in the process of putting it back in, with a magnetic screwdriver, and a rag under the bobbin area to catch it if i dropped it, and i fumbled a bit, and dropped it. It hit the center foot and the throat plate on the way down and bounced outa sight. I just caught it hit the newspaper on the floor out of the corner of my eye. Then i didnt see or hear it again. I bet it is under the baseboard, but i am not ripping it up to see. I would rather deal with the screw than piss off the old lady... Quote "If nobody shares what they know, we will eventually all know nothing." "There is no adventure in letting fear and common sense be your guide"
Moderator Art Posted December 15, 2015 Moderator Report Posted December 15, 2015 If you piss off the ole lady, a screw may be out of the question. Art Quote For heaven's sakes pilgrim, make yourself a strop!
Members TinkerTailor Posted December 15, 2015 Author Members Report Posted December 15, 2015 Look very carefully, sometimes (actually a lot of times) the nut is recessed into the bar so it is captured and acts like a threaded shaft. Art To be honest i was about 5 mins away from haywiring it on. I am sure I could make it work, I am a farm boy after all. Would not be even close to the first time a leather stitcher had haywire where a screw ran away....... Quote "If nobody shares what they know, we will eventually all know nothing." "There is no adventure in letting fear and common sense be your guide"
Moderator Art Posted December 15, 2015 Moderator Report Posted December 15, 2015 Thats it, my bar is threaded. I did look over the parts diagram and the thumbscrew on the front of the machine access cover is supposed to also be 9/64-40 and it screws in to the bar perfect, it is just too short to do it with the bar in place. I am pretty sure that is the size, from what i found in a quick search, the old kenmore is the same. Btw, thanks for checking your for me. I am tempted to just drill it out and use a bigger more common bolt and nut. Not going to try to tap it bigger, that is askin for an asswhupping..... I'd call bob, but it is a techsew....... I will call Ron and see, however i still have hopes i can find another locally. Make sure Ron has a spare bar before you take to drilling. And people ask me why I have two 441s? Art Quote For heaven's sakes pilgrim, make yourself a strop!
Moderator Art Posted December 15, 2015 Moderator Report Posted December 15, 2015 To be honest i was about 5 mins away from haywiring it on. I am sure I could make it work, I am a farm boy after all. Would not be even close to the first time a leather stitcher had haywire where a screw ran away....... Son, down here in the civilized world, we call that safety wire, they even make pliers for twirling it. We do however know what hog rings are, and you would be surprised what manner of "repairs" can be affected that way. Art Quote For heaven's sakes pilgrim, make yourself a strop!
Members TinkerTailor Posted December 15, 2015 Author Members Report Posted December 15, 2015 Make sure Ron has a spare bar before you take to drilling. And people ask me why I have two 441s? Art Drilling is a last resort, not actually going to do this, I wouldn't anyways without taking the bar out and at least using a drill press, preferably a mill. I am going to try to get 2-4 screws tomorrow locally and if not i will get them from techsew. The thumbscrew is working for now, and since it's a through-hole, i am not so worried about the thumbscrew breaking off. I know how to get out broken bolts. Ever use a left handed drill bit btw? You just drill into the stub of the bolt, and the grabbing of the bit tends to back the bolt out, instead of making it tighter like with right handed bits. That is why it would be easier from the backside, a righty bit will spin the bolt out. Left handed drill bits are one of my secret weapons. Quote "If nobody shares what they know, we will eventually all know nothing." "There is no adventure in letting fear and common sense be your guide"
CowboyBob Posted December 15, 2015 Report Posted December 15, 2015 That screw is a 9/64 40tpi. Quote Bob Kovar Toledo Industrial Sewing Machine Sales Ltd. 3631 Marine Rd Toledo,Ohio 43609 1-866-362-7397
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