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Does anyone know the name of a large seller just out side of Trenton Tennessee or considered to be in Trenton .

I ran across the business several days ago but now cannot find them and forgot the name and address.

Thanks

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That it is , Thanks soccerdad.

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My pleasure ... would love to know about your dealings with NickOSewing. I'm thinking of dealing with them here in Missouri. They've got an outlet in St. Louis now. Best of luck to you, Dale

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If you're curious about my dealings read the adler 467 for venator thread. . . read what a professional and highly respected mechanic said about the "refurbished" machine I purchased from them.

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I hear the train a comin', it's comin' around the bend....

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Johny Cash, apparently: http://www.azlyrics.com/lyrics/johnnycash/folsomprisonblues.html

I'm guessing they are getting at the fact that the news about a "refurbished" Adler 467 from Nick-O-Sew is gonna hit you like a freight train. Of course the sample size of "1" in that particular experience is rather small and may not be statistically relevant - "your mileage may vary". But it sure was doozy (or "Duesy" as in Duesenberg?) Oy! All that cultural background for obscure references, it takes a lifetime and then some to catch up, being an import myself. I usually just highlight and then right-click-search-with-google.

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Duzy? Sure wish I could have done more for that Adler. I read through that entire thread, but couldn't see what I would have done differently.

Regards, Eric

Ps. Wiz, I love any song with trains.

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You brought that Adler 467 back to life from cardiac arrest, Eric. Nobody faults the volunteer lifesaver for cracking a rib in the process - it'll heal. Not that you cracked any ribs, really. The point was that the "refurbished" Adler 467 originally arrived at the customer in a state of cardiac arrest and imminent death. The limbs of the machine were still moving but the life-giving fluid (oil) was no longer circulating.

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Duzy? Sure wish I could have done more for that Adler. I read through that entire thread, but couldn't see what I would have done differently.

Regards, Eric

Ps. Wiz, I love any song with trains.

Deusy is from deusenburg btw.... Uwe is right.

Wiz ain't the only one with music in his head.......

How bout this one? Freight Train by Elizabeth Cotten.

Piedmont finger-picken blues. Note Elizabeth Cotten plays a right guitar lefty........She was a goddess of blues. There is a vid of her playing in her 90's

Covered by a couple old hippies:

On "Not for Kids Only" One of my fav bluegrass albums. David Grisman and Jerry Garcia.

Sorry for the highjack....Had to.

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Uwe, thanks for pointing me in the right direction. I'm familiar with the Cash song, and I used to play Cotten's Freight Train (but with thumb, three fingers and guitar right-side-up). But it had been a few replies since the company in question was mentioned, so I didn't put two and two together on Wiz's remark. I'll pay closer attention next time now that I know the drill.

Speaking of NickOSewing, I'm not sure I've seen them advertising on this site. If that sounds right to others, why do you think?

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Eric,

You took a machine that was effectively scrap iron, that nobody in my city would even look at without a $500 non-refundable deposit, and turned it into a working piece of equipment again. As the owner of the device I'm thrilled to have a member of our household contributing again in a meaningful fashion, it's wonderful and I'm very thankful.

With regards to Nick-o-sew this is a very small sample and could well be an anomaly in their operation. On the other hand it makes it clear that their definition of "refurbished" is "kinda works for now but we didn't really open it up or look at it seriously or replace obviously broken parts" whereas mine means "opened it up, cleaned it, ensured all parts are in good working order and it works as advertised".

I hope this was an anomaly in their service but the degree of neglect the machine I was sold suffered prior to my obtaining it says otherwise. . .

Thanks again Eric, your help was and is very appreciated.

STU

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It's scary how some dealers use the term "refurbished" today. It's not common to see a Adler machine that mistreated. I live in a country where Adler are more common than Singer Industrials, so I have seen a fear share of them. It's strange that a large company like that have such poor quality control.

Tor

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I've bought several machine from nick-0 and had really good luck. One of which was an Adler 467 and the other was a 20" artisan splitter. Both had been used, both came in working order. Nick moves a lot of machines, and is a fairly large company personally I wouldn't hesitate to order from him again. He crates, packages and sets them up pretty well from my experience. I do believe that he has been an advertiser on here in the past. -Andrew

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When it comes to the service in the beginning he was great, worked with me to get me the machine despite me not being the easiest customer (I'll admit that one). The item was shipped quickly, packaged well etc and that was great. It was simply the fact that I was sold a "refurbished machine" that was a rolling piece of shit.

I've bought several machine from nick-0 and had really good luck. One of which was an Adler 467 and the other was a 20" artisan splitter. Both had been used, both came in working order. Nick moves a lot of machines, and is a fairly large company personally I wouldn't hesitate to order from him again. He crates, packages and sets them up pretty well from my experience. I do believe that he has been an advertiser on here in the past. -Andrew

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When it comes to the service in the beginning he was great, worked with me to get me the machine despite me not being the easiest customer (I'll admit that one). The item was shipped quickly, packaged well etc and that was great. It was simply the fact that I was sold a "refurbished machine" that was a rolling piece of shit.

I wouldn't have been happy either! I read the thread about the undertaking to get it up and sewing again, sounds like it was a mess! Did nick not want to make good on it? I would have requested that he swap out the head! I know I've dropped the ball before, and then bent over backwards to make good on my word for different things I've made for clients that didn't end up working out for them for one reason or another.

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My thought is that this 467 just fell through a crack. They are a big dealer, I have a few machines in the factory with their label on them. They aren't in use any more, but we've used them. One thing I do know, is that guys like me are getting rare. Most mechanics back when I started in 1980 are retired or simply gone. The guy that trained me is almost 80. I was 21 when I started. It takes 5 years in a factory environment where you have to babysit hundreds of machines and keep them running at high speed in a very stressful setting. I was a head mechanic at age 26 with 300 operators.

So a guy working where this machine came from missed its condition, I get that. Most hobbyists machines wouldn't last a week in a factory unless I or someone like me was in charge. The trend today in factories is to simply replace the machines within 5 years after they've been deprecated. The new Jukis I purchase today won't be around in 30 years, they just aren't built well enough in China. That's not to say the ones built primarily for smaller operations won't last, but they are more disposable. Would I buy a new one for my personal use, absolutely. The difference is dealer support. The two machines I've rebuilt for folks on this forum should have been parted out. I just hate the stories of failure, no matter the reason. If you are a head mechanic in a factory you have to have a passion. Not just a job. I still get my butt kicked even after 35 years.

Regards, Eric

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Venator, I have a question. Has Nick O Sewing been made aware of this machines condition? has he not offered to take back an repair the machine? or perhaps swap it out. When it comes to these types of Adler machines Like the 467, 767 and the Duerkopp 290, 291 (if made after 1990 all called Duerkopp Adler) These are all high speed machines (tripple feeds) that commonly been used in factories. Therefore I would check them extra carefully before I buy them. I understand that Nick O Sewing is a company that often buy up factory lots. If it came from a closed down production the machine could be overhauled and still in use . Or its a old swapped out machine that came on the lot.

This machine will at least be 36 years old or more, that's why I do not understand how somebody can assume it's alright. What's left on a factory high speed machine after 36 year in a factory? It is a Adler, but still. You cannot just assume 36 years old factory machine is okay! It's a machine with a design that looks very modern for its age,(it's very modern too) it's easy to mistake it for a much newer machine. Perhaps, that makes them easier to sell. Nevertheless, it's old. Anyway, a big company like Nick O Sewing must have some routines on machine buy and sell, they would have to log it's history.

A normal thing to do is to take it back and repair it. You cannot expect the company to do anything else or can you?

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If that was my company I would offer you my sincerely apologies and give you an other machine. Bad publicity can be very expensive, this forum have many reader that's in their targeting group. Anything less would be shortsighted.

Tor

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