llucas Report post Posted February 6, 2016 I have recently bought an Adler 205-374 that I am rebuilding for sewing gun belts and holsters. I have a question in that regard: when hand stitching I always use a stitching groove on the front and back. In the small amount of machine sewing I have done I have relied on the center presser foot to press the stitch below the surface and the back side is slightly proud. Do any of you cut a stitching groove and follow it with your sewing machine? How easy is it to follow a stitching groove with a sewing machine? Sorry, newbie question vis-a-vis hand stitching versus machine stitching. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ken Nelson Report post Posted February 6, 2016 I always use a stitch groover and it is easy to follow the stitch groove. Part of learning to sew. Ken Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dwight Report post Posted February 6, 2016 I'm with Ken on this, . . . I do the same. Fact is, . . . some of my holsters get the stitch gouge treatment on the front and the back as well. It makes the stitches lay down a lot better, less chance of fraying, and the holster coming apart. May God bless, Dwight Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chief31794 Report post Posted February 6, 2016 Just to pile on, I use a groover as well, I also use an edge guide whenever possible (belts, guitar straps, etc), I set the guide so that the needle is in the middle of the groove, then just keep the project against the guide and sew away. Even when I can't use the guide a groove makes it easier to follow than a scribed line as well as the benefits of protecting the stitches. Chief Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Troy I Report post Posted February 6, 2016 I do the same as Dwight and Ken...I make a stitch grove on the front...it makes following the stitch line a lot easier, as well as getting the stitches to lie down better. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Red Cent Report post Posted February 6, 2016 (edited) I don't groove, I crease. I do a lot of white thread sewing with a machine. The ditch digger will leave a natural colored line on your dark dyed piece and if you stray just a little you will leave telltale goofs. So, I crease. And I always run a very wet rag over the back stitching and then roll to flatten the stitches. On the front, the crease and thread tension pulls the thread into the leather sufficiently. I don't groove or crease the back. Edited February 6, 2016 by Red Cent Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Colt W Knight Report post Posted February 8, 2016 I prefer to use either a groove or a crease, I just think it looks better. Some projects, I do not use a groove, like the outside part of a purse strap. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
llucas Report post Posted February 10, 2016 I appreciate all the feedback. Good stuff. For those who crease, do you heat the tool with an alcohol lamp, or simply apply elbow grease as needed? I just acquired two double shoulders of prefinished leather split to about 8 ounces with the back nicely slicked. I am going to make a few holsters out of this and crease the stitch line front and back. Up to this point I have always used double shoulder veg tan, grooved front and back. I am optimistic that the sewing machine will do a good job of hitting the groove or crease on the front and the back. Your observations have made me more hopeful that I can pull this off. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites