stelmackr Posted March 27, 2016 Report Posted March 27, 2016 UWE, here is a thread that has reference to the patent and pictures: http://leatherworker.net/forum/topic/41581-ferdcos-lower-needle-guide/#entry259182 Bob Stelmack Quote Bob Stelmack Desert Leathercraft LLC Former Editor of the, RawHide Gazette, for the Puget Sound Leather Artisans Co-Op, 25 years of doing it was enough...
Uwe Posted March 27, 2016 Report Posted March 27, 2016 Thanks Bob. I sure hope they fix that upgrade issue soon to make nearly ten years worth of posts show pictures again. Back when I was doing IT work, we tested these things before we rolled them out. Quote Uwe (pronounced "OOH-vuh" ) Links: Videos
Members soccerdad Posted March 27, 2016 Members Report Posted March 27, 2016 So, is there nobody out there with a newish (last 2 or 3 years) Ferdco pro 2000 machine? Anyone with a newish Ferdco care to weigh in? Quote
stelmackr Posted March 27, 2016 Report Posted March 27, 2016 FERDCO sold the business to Hoffman about 3-years ago. http://www.hoffmanbrothers.com/index.asp so, I assume that only repairs are done now. Quote Bob Stelmack Desert Leathercraft LLC Former Editor of the, RawHide Gazette, for the Puget Sound Leather Artisans Co-Op, 25 years of doing it was enough...
Moderator Art Posted March 27, 2016 Moderator Report Posted March 27, 2016 I think Hoffman is making a Ferdco machine, but I believe it is a Chinese clone the same as everyone else's. I'm not absolutely sure, but I don't think it is the Taiwanese Taking machine anymore. It may not have the lower needle guide (no foot) like the Taking did either. Call them and ask. Art Quote For heaven's sakes pilgrim, make yourself a strop!
Trox Posted March 28, 2016 Report Posted March 28, 2016 Hi, I contacted the Hoffman brothers not long ago and asked them for the guide. They sent me a complete quote with prices on all the accessories for the Ferdco machine. They still had the needle guide, plates and presser feet´s for the machine. Their accessories looked different from what other clone seller offers. Now I cannot find their email anymore, I must accidently deleted it. Now I found an second hand lower needle guide I'm about to purhase. If that doesn't happen, somebody beat me to it. I got to write them again. Anyway, here is a picture of the patent. It looks exactly like this. Should fix occasionally skipped stitches with the use of slotted, holster and stirrup plates. (Especially when the use of thinner needles) I had some problems with that. Anyway, I do not know anything about their new Ferdco machine. The price suggest it's a standard Chinese clone, otherwise we would have known. They never shut up about such beneficial information. Tor Quote Tor Workshop machines: TSC 441 clone/Efka DC1550, Dürkopp-Adler 267-373/Efka DC1600, Pfaff 345-H3/Cobra 600W, Singer 29K-72, Sandt 8 Ton clicking machine, Alpha SM skiving unit, Fortuna 620 band knife splitting machine. Old Irons: Adler 5-27, Adler 30-15, Singer 236W-100
Trox Posted March 28, 2016 Report Posted March 28, 2016 I looked at the YouTube video https://m.youtube.co of the new Ferdco Pro 2000. There it has accessories that looks just like all other Chinese ones. The accessories on picture I received from the Hoffman looked just like the old Ferdco ones. I told them I had most of these attchment, but your look different. I almost bought some of them because they looked much better than the normal Chinese ones. I had been pretty disappointed if I received exactly the same as I already had. Perhaps they had some left of the original Ferdco accessories. I do not understand this because the video above is from 2014 and I contacted Hoffman Bros last fall. It was an old picture they sent me and I was primarily interested in the lower needle guide. Here its pictured with the old Ferdco double harness foot this http://www.raichert. Ed Raichert spec on the machine says: up 346 thread, needle sizes from Nm 160 to 280. That's Singer size 23 to 28. There is nothing about a size 30 (Nm 330) needle here. These machines might take a Singer # 29 (Nm 300), like the DA 205-370 also does. According to the patent search the Ferdco lower needle guide is not a valid patent anymore, due fail to renewing the patent payment. Perhaps they just filed to patent it again since Ed Raichert called it a "patent pending lower needle guide", I do not know . "Ferdco 2000 pro super bull" is very good old established brand, that speak for quality and craftsmanship ship. We all know the story about Ferdco. I do not think the Hoffman Bros bought this brand just because of the old rest stock. They had plans of using this well established brand for all its worth, of course. Do not expect to get anymore from them than you get from other dealers to the same price and you will not be dissapointed. Just my 2 cents Tor Quote Tor Workshop machines: TSC 441 clone/Efka DC1550, Dürkopp-Adler 267-373/Efka DC1600, Pfaff 345-H3/Cobra 600W, Singer 29K-72, Sandt 8 Ton clicking machine, Alpha SM skiving unit, Fortuna 620 band knife splitting machine. Old Irons: Adler 5-27, Adler 30-15, Singer 236W-100
Members brmax Posted March 28, 2016 Members Report Posted March 28, 2016 Thanks Tor ! some good photos there to reference and would benefit future owners of the Juki clones also. At this time the links aren't working here for myself but I get the "picture" easy enough, so a compare picture of Juki standard and maybe the latest clones parts would be cool. These latest part accessories might just be custom and I suppose Juki never made, from a future clone owners perspective anyway. This is my reason of interest this morning doing some coffee, and just another benefit for the great conversation here. Thanks Floyd Quote
Trox Posted March 29, 2016 Report Posted March 29, 2016 Http://www.raichert.com/leather/pro2000/ferdcoPro2000Web.htm HI Floyd, I had to write this url in manually. Not possible to come and paste for the moment. Sure it's related to the site upgrading prosess. I try once more to paste the YouTube video, otherwise the link is in the site above. https://youtu.be/f-1 Tor Quote Tor Workshop machines: TSC 441 clone/Efka DC1550, Dürkopp-Adler 267-373/Efka DC1600, Pfaff 345-H3/Cobra 600W, Singer 29K-72, Sandt 8 Ton clicking machine, Alpha SM skiving unit, Fortuna 620 band knife splitting machine. Old Irons: Adler 5-27, Adler 30-15, Singer 236W-100
Trox Posted March 29, 2016 Report Posted March 29, 2016 It still does not work? Quote Tor Workshop machines: TSC 441 clone/Efka DC1550, Dürkopp-Adler 267-373/Efka DC1600, Pfaff 345-H3/Cobra 600W, Singer 29K-72, Sandt 8 Ton clicking machine, Alpha SM skiving unit, Fortuna 620 band knife splitting machine. Old Irons: Adler 5-27, Adler 30-15, Singer 236W-100
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