441 Clone Factory Name and Location?

[dgkfit]

hello y'all,
   i have a silly question.  i promise not to start my own sewing machine company with the answer.  i am quite happy with my 441 clone.  i have been told by more than one seller of them that they are made in the same chinese factory.  they just put a different paint job on them, and do slight changes that the seller orders. and, service after the sale is the largest difference between them.  just for curiosity, WHAT IS THE NAME OF THE COMPANY THAT MAKES THEM AND WHAT CITY IN CHINA ARE THEY MADE IN?

 

thanks  dale

[JLSleather]

What clone are you talking about?  That may make a difference.  But ya gotta admit, this does look a bit familiar  ...

http://en.czzgfr.com/products_detail/&productId=38609b12-f2e3-4329-b698-400632be621d.html

[MADMAX22]

And there is probably more then one. 

[Itch]

Sewpro,Stitchmaster,Artisan,Cowboy,just to name a few ..

[MADMAX22]

2 hours ago, Itch said:

Sewpro,Stitchmaster,Artisan,Cowboy,just to name a few ..

Those are all the guys who import the machines, they dont make them. Pretty sure the OP is asking about the company who actually makes the machines. 

[dgkfit]

hello,

  thank you for your replies.  in particular, i am looking for the factory of cobra, cowboy, artisan, and nickosew in that order of curiosity.  again, this is just for curiosity, nothing else.

thank you  dale

[Art]

Like most other business and "manufacturers" in China, that is not an easy question.  For a particular "Line" or sewing machine distributor over here, their product line is probably produced in more than one "Factory".  The parts for the machines are produced by many suppliers and the "Factories" put them together.  Sometimes the product of a "Factory" is simply a relabeling of a product from another factory.  Some of these outlying factories are somewhat specialized.  For instance, one factory produces only Pfaff clones, and another Adler, and still another Juki, and then some of them are producing Mitsubishi clones AND OEM Mitsubishi machines.  China is the Wild West as far as manufacturing goes and a US (or other country) importer has to balance between cost and quality.  It is important to have an agent in China to coordinate and integrate between you and the Chinese factories/suppliers.  Add to this the fact that a Factory could be gone tomorrow, literally, hell, they could be an empty building or making washing machines.

Shanghai Huigong Sewing Machine Factory No.3 is the producer of Highlead machines and rebrands several others.

As far as 441s go, I can't tell you who is making machines for whom.  Parts are readily available and cheap.  Please note that a machine you get in a box from China will need a half hour to an hour to make it ready.  Sometimes parts aren't available and they freely substitute, it doesn't matter if it fits or works, they have a production schedule to meet.  The "good" factories do this as readily as the "not so good" factories.  The dealer will, "not worry about it", have the factory send new parts (often delaying dealer deliveries) which might take the dealer 2 or more hours to disassemble and install, or the dealer might not recognize that there is a problem, that's why we say go with a known dealer.  If you want to know where the machine came from, ask the dealer, if he doesn't tell you, find another dealer.

Art

[dgkfit]

just for curiosity, who in shanghai makes the cobra class 4 ?

thank you  dale

[Art]

Oh Boy,

I recommended contacting the distributor, Cobra (Leather Machine Co.), but guess you don't trust them.

When I was importing these machines, some of my suppliers were:

                                                                   Zhiqiang Sewing Machine Company, Ltd.

                                                                   Qing County, Hebei, China

                                                                   Zhejiang Tianning Motor Manufacturing Company, Ltd.
                                                                   No.4, Wenbao Road I,  LiShui City, Zhejiang, China

                                                                  Zhejiang Qiaoyi Lamp Manufacturing Company, Ltd.

                                                                  No. 16, Yuhuan Industrial Area Zone,   Zhejiang, China

                                                                  Fushan Table Top Manufacturing Company, Ltd.
                                                                  South of Fushan County, Fushan  Jiangsu, China

                                                                  Shanghai Meisong Sewing Machine Company, Ltd. 
                                                                  No.5025 Hangtang Road, Fengcheng County, Shanghai, China

                                                                  Zhejiang Zhiying Sewing Machine Parts Manufacturing Company, Ltd. 
                                                                  Xiaying County, Yinzhou, Zhejiang, China

 

Those are off my import manifests and government import documents, so it is pubic information somewhere in the overall bureaucratic repository, hopefully digitized.  This is a complicated business, and having a representative over in China is almost an imperative.  This is not a high margin business either, especially on the distributor/dealer end.

 

Art

[dgkfit]

hello art,

  thank you for your reply.  again, i do not intend to market sewing machines.  i am just curious.  thank you.  dale