Contributing Member JLSleather Posted July 8, 2016 Author Contributing Member Report Posted July 8, 2016 I think that's the same company I tried to contact today. Figured I'd check on what they got (looked like the 767 and the 867 would probably work?). Long as there isn't a minimum order of like 1000 units, I might just pick up a few so they're around when other folks take the notion. But now that I'm done for the day, I think I'll go measure them there holes. Drilling a hole is fine. Long as we don't have to drill in one side of an existing hole ... OKAY< then.. the official version... two holes (up and down like in the pic Al put up there). Likely 6mm (hole measures about 4.4 mm) and spaced pretty close to 20 mm centers. Quote "Observation is 9/10 of the law." IF what you do is something that ANYBODY can do, then don't be surprised when ANYBODY does.
Uwe Posted July 8, 2016 Report Posted July 8, 2016 The KB205 bracket might work then. It comes with standard M6 screws. PM me if you want try one out, I have a few KB205 brackets on hand and can send you a sample for testing. The Cowboy brand 441 machines (CB4500) don't have a flat surface where the mounting holes need to be (it's a curved recess instead), complicating things a bit. Kwok Hing also makes a long version of the swing down guide called KG967. It has a 20mm longer arm than the KG867. Quote Uwe (pronounced "OOH-vuh" ) Links: Videos
Contributing Member JLSleather Posted July 8, 2016 Author Contributing Member Report Posted July 8, 2016 That looks like it'd prolly work. Thing is, though, WHICH of the guides better suited? That site doesn't list ANY sizes / measurements. Ideally it would be large enough to reach without adding a lot of 'stuff' right in the work area. I should have measured from the holes down to the cylinder, but not much good to know what that is if that still doesn't tell you which guide to use ! Quote "Observation is 9/10 of the law." IF what you do is something that ANYBODY can do, then don't be surprised when ANYBODY does.
Uwe Posted July 8, 2016 Report Posted July 8, 2016 The best way to find out for sure is to just try it out. I do have the KG-867 guides and KB-205 brackets on hand, in case you want to try that one first. I can mail you a set for testing today, just PM me your mailing address (I'm leaving for a road trip at noon). If you can wait a few weeks, I can add a KG-967 guide to my next Kwok Hing order and let you borrow it for testing. You'll probably have a hard time finding the KG-967 guide at retailers in the wild, and establishing a direct order line with KH is not always simple. Quote Uwe (pronounced "OOH-vuh" ) Links: Videos
Contributing Member JLSleather Posted July 8, 2016 Author Contributing Member Report Posted July 8, 2016 (edited) Sue weeeeeet I did email that web site.. see what happens there. But I WOULD be willing to test this out -- so I certainly appreciate your offer. We all know how that "sucks" ordering multiple 'versions' to get the one that fits what we're doing! So, the one that comes with the Cowboy machines is a curved mounting plate? Here's the back of the cobra (4). Not a metric scale, but the caliper says 20mm center distance, so .. .800-ish on this scale. Edited July 8, 2016 by JLSleather Quote "Observation is 9/10 of the law." IF what you do is something that ANYBODY can do, then don't be surprised when ANYBODY does.
Contributing Member JLSleather Posted July 11, 2016 Author Contributing Member Report Posted July 11, 2016 On 7/7/2016 at 2:13 AM, treyman said: Cobra may be coming out with its own. Maybe they get their "own" sewing machine first! That one is from one or more factories in Asia. But now that i've seen the mark-up on these little edge guides, maybe I'll "come out with my own" too! Quote "Observation is 9/10 of the law." IF what you do is something that ANYBODY can do, then don't be surprised when ANYBODY does.
Members Darren Brosowski Posted July 11, 2016 Members Report Posted July 11, 2016 I am not sure if the mounting holes on the Cobra head are done in China or the USA but they are not standard on the 441. Both types of guides have their pluses and minuses but I prefer the bed mounted one as it has a thicker roller. Quote
Contributing Member JLSleather Posted July 11, 2016 Author Contributing Member Report Posted July 11, 2016 (edited) Oh, gotcha. Either is tall enough for most of what I sew, so that's not an issue for me. Can see your point, tho. Edited July 11, 2016 by JLSleather Quote "Observation is 9/10 of the law." IF what you do is something that ANYBODY can do, then don't be surprised when ANYBODY does.
Contributing Member JLSleather Posted July 12, 2016 Author Contributing Member Report Posted July 12, 2016 Now, here's a bit of the issue I have with these things. I know it's not a precision instrument, but it could have been done better than this ... Quote "Observation is 9/10 of the law." IF what you do is something that ANYBODY can do, then don't be surprised when ANYBODY does.
Members Red Cent Posted July 12, 2016 Members Report Posted July 12, 2016 This is interesting. Lets see. I took the hand lift lever and ball off when I got the Cobra 4. What gravity thing? Works great. OK. Trying to "step out of the box". That new fangled Rube Goldberg edge guide seems to be an answer to what question. Betcha I can buy a whole side from Zack White with the price. I use the old roller guide all the time especially with the end of a belt. Its a killer for doing round things=equally spaced stitches. And it hasn't moved yet. Getting miserly in my old age. When I make a ranger belt I sew one piece of leather around the main belt. When I sew this on, there is a little mark for me to place a 5-6 ounce strip of leather under the front of the guide that raises it to the perfect height. I guess I don't do the stuff that would require the new thingy. Why doesn't Al take a hack saw and cut the side off the plate. Then he could get his ball back. Quote https://www.facebook.com/redcentcustomleather?ref=bookmarks http://www.redcentcustomleather.com/
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