Members dikman Posted October 31, 2016 Members Report Posted October 31, 2016 Given the machines that I have, what advantage, if any, would there be in buying a 132K6? Quote Machines wot I have - Singer 51W59; Singer 331K4; Seiko STH-8BLD; Pfaff 335; CB4500. Chinese shoe patcher; Singer 201K (old hand crank)
Members Constabulary Posted October 31, 2016 Members Report Posted October 31, 2016 Compared with your 211 / 111 It can handle much thicker thread and has a HUGE rotary hook. It is gear shaft driven so no need to replace a timing belt one day. Thats what comes to my mind within a few seconds Quote ~ Keep "OLD CAST IRON" alive - it´s worth it ~ Machines in use: - Singer 111G156 - Singer 307G2 - Singer 29K71 - Singer 212G141 - Singer 45D91 - Singer 132K6 - Singer 108W20 - Singer 51WSV2 - Singer 143W2
Members Darren Brosowski Posted October 31, 2016 Members Report Posted October 31, 2016 (edited) The 132k6 was designed as a heavy upholstery machine to sit above the 111/211 class but only has the alternating presser foot arrangement. Due to the heavy weight of the machine head it is regularly used for heavy webbing and canvas up to 8-10mm Unlike almost all other rotary shuttle machines it can handle up to #345 thread Edited October 31, 2016 by Darren Brosowski Added thread capacity Quote
Members dikman Posted October 31, 2016 Author Members Report Posted October 31, 2016 I know it can sew plywood (!) and horse rugs (ughh!) but the heavier thread could be useful - if I can find heavier thread. Given that it's not a compound feed, are there any potential issues with sewing veg. tan leather? What sort of thickness can it handle? Are spare feet readily available? Sorry for the questions, but searching mainly said that it can sew plywood and horse rugs and so far I couldn't find a lot specific to leather work as we do it. I gather that it's a fair brute of a machine but how would it go sewing holsters? Quote Machines wot I have - Singer 51W59; Singer 331K4; Seiko STH-8BLD; Pfaff 335; CB4500. Chinese shoe patcher; Singer 201K (old hand crank)
Members Darren Brosowski Posted October 31, 2016 Members Report Posted October 31, 2016 Standard feet are no issue with them. Many people use them for up to 8mm or so of veg tanned. I make an edge guide that people love for belts etc Quote
MADMAX22 Posted November 3, 2016 Report Posted November 3, 2016 Some decent reading https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=singer+132k6+site:leatherworker.net The first thread has some cool stuff in it. Quote
Members dikman Posted November 3, 2016 Author Members Report Posted November 3, 2016 Thanks MADMAX, you came up with better stuff than when I searched! After reading it all my feeling is that while it can handle slightly thicker material (and slightly thicker threads) than my existing machines there's no huge advantages to be gained in buying one (unless it is real cheap!). I think if I intend getting a bigger machine the next step has to be a 441-type. Quote Machines wot I have - Singer 51W59; Singer 331K4; Seiko STH-8BLD; Pfaff 335; CB4500. Chinese shoe patcher; Singer 201K (old hand crank)
Members Constabulary Posted November 3, 2016 Members Report Posted November 3, 2016 132k / 133K are not as heavy duty as they appear to be. One reason for that is for sure the quite light weight hand wheel. I recently have restore a Singer 45D91 (pre 1945 German made 45K so to say) and it has a much larger and heavier hand wheel. The 133K is much heavier weight wise but to me it seems the 45K has more punching power. Mechanically a bit different but needle bar and foot bar mechanism are identical. Needle and needle stroke are the same on both machines. 441 machines are for sure way ahead! Quote ~ Keep "OLD CAST IRON" alive - it´s worth it ~ Machines in use: - Singer 111G156 - Singer 307G2 - Singer 29K71 - Singer 212G141 - Singer 45D91 - Singer 132K6 - Singer 108W20 - Singer 51WSV2 - Singer 143W2
Members TinkerTailor Posted November 3, 2016 Members Report Posted November 3, 2016 On 10/30/2016 at 11:31 PM, dikman said: Given the machines that I have, what advantage, if any, would there be in buying a 132K6? You get to feed the iron addiction. Isn't this enough? What more do you need for pitys sake? Quote "If nobody shares what they know, we will eventually all know nothing." "There is no adventure in letting fear and common sense be your guide"
Members Constabulary Posted November 3, 2016 Members Report Posted November 3, 2016 1 hour ago, TinkerTailor said: You get to feed the iron addiction. Isn't this enough? What more do you need for pitys sake? So true - I have the same problem c´mon - let the voices get you - you need it - you need it!!! Quote ~ Keep "OLD CAST IRON" alive - it´s worth it ~ Machines in use: - Singer 111G156 - Singer 307G2 - Singer 29K71 - Singer 212G141 - Singer 45D91 - Singer 132K6 - Singer 108W20 - Singer 51WSV2 - Singer 143W2
Members dikman Posted November 4, 2016 Author Members Report Posted November 4, 2016 And that, my friends, is part of the problem! When I get interested in something I have a tendency to collect "things". Space has also become something of an issue, so the little voice is saying to wait - until the right one comes along. While it would be nice to have, it's not going to be the giant leap forward that I need/want. Quote Machines wot I have - Singer 51W59; Singer 331K4; Seiko STH-8BLD; Pfaff 335; CB4500. Chinese shoe patcher; Singer 201K (old hand crank)
Members sailormik Posted Friday at 01:58 AM Members Report Posted Friday at 01:58 AM Can you tell if this is a legendary 132K6 by looking at the photo? I am new to heavy duty sewing and seen this machine for sale but the vendor doesnt know what model it is... Quote
Members dikman Posted Friday at 02:04 AM Author Members Report Posted Friday at 02:04 AM Looks to me like a common garden-variety domestic sewing machine. If you want a heavy-duty machine then keep looking. Quote Machines wot I have - Singer 51W59; Singer 331K4; Seiko STH-8BLD; Pfaff 335; CB4500. Chinese shoe patcher; Singer 201K (old hand crank)
Contributing Member fredk Posted Friday at 02:16 AM Contributing Member Report Posted Friday at 02:16 AM (edited) It looks like a Singer 99 class, domestic s/m. It would mange to sew through 1.5mm max chrome tan leather We would be sure if we knew the serial number Edited Friday at 02:17 AM by fredk Quote Al speling misteaks aer all mi own werk..
Moderator Wizcrafts Posted Friday at 05:25 AM Moderator Report Posted Friday at 05:25 AM 3 hours ago, sailormik said: Can you tell if this is a legendary 132K6 by looking at the photo? I am new to heavy duty sewing and seen this machine for sale but the vendor doesnt know what model it is... Nope! It's a light duty home sewing machine for fabrics. It takes thin cotton thread and small domestic needles. Quote Posted IMHO, by Wiz My current crop of sewing machines: Cowboy CB4500, Singer 107w3, Singer 139w109, Singer 168G101, Singer 29k71, Singer 31-15, Singer 111w103, Singer 211G156, Adler 30-7 on power stand, Techsew 2700, Fortuna power skiver and a Pfaff 4 thread 2 needle serger.
Moderator Wizcrafts Posted Friday at 05:39 AM Moderator Report Posted Friday at 05:39 AM There was a discussions about a Singer 132k6 on our site a handful of years ago, which includes close up photos of the machine. They are humongous! I owned one for a couple of years in the mid-1980s. One of their intended uses was sewing buffing wheels and the dangling car wash cloths. Another was parachute harnesses. I think the head weighed about 150 pounds. The only reason I got rid of it was that the jump/kick foot occasionally slipped on slicked leather and the stitches varied in length. The only feed is on the bottom. The outside presser foot just follows along with the feed dog. I did make some pancake holsters with it. The stitch length on the 132k6 was up to 1/2 inch. The maximum thickness sewable is 1/2 inch of medium temper leather, or cloth, or webbing. It did fine with #346 thread and a #25 needle. Mine had a 1/2 horsepower clutch motor which I slowed with a 2 inch pulley that fed the larger pulley on the machine. It was a speed demon getting about 3 stitches per second, flat out! ;-) Quote Posted IMHO, by Wiz My current crop of sewing machines: Cowboy CB4500, Singer 107w3, Singer 139w109, Singer 168G101, Singer 29k71, Singer 31-15, Singer 111w103, Singer 211G156, Adler 30-7 on power stand, Techsew 2700, Fortuna power skiver and a Pfaff 4 thread 2 needle serger.
Members Helenhowes Posted Sunday at 12:40 PM Members Report Posted Sunday at 12:40 PM The machine shown is a 201 (not a 99). Nice DOMESTIC machine with a rotary hook. NOT for heavy work, please... HH Quote
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