Members unicornwoman Posted January 14, 2009 Members Report Posted January 14, 2009 I agree with TexasJack. Obviously people want more and more federal control over their lives else they wouldn't vote the way they do. I found a bunch of the people I talked to did not vote according to their beliefs, but according to who they thought would win. It was more important to them to say they voted for the winner, than to vote according to how they believed, knowing their candidate would lose. Me, I figure voting 3rd party is telling the the 2 big parties what I think of both of them.... But regarding the law, PLEASE write congress! It's very, very easy to do via: congress.org Type in your zip code and it gives you the option to write Federal OR State officials about things. And, yes, I've already fussed. Quote Melody D. Snow The Unicorn Woman (established 1980) Lillian, Texas, U.S.A. Miniature Tackmaker, Leathercraft Artist, & Freelance Writer http://www.unicornwoman.com
Members bustedlifter Posted January 14, 2009 Members Report Posted January 14, 2009 Stupid law. Man, where to start? How about with Thomas Jefferson, who said; " The strongest reason for people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government" and " The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants". " people get the government they deserve" de Toqueville " If it moves, tax it.If it keeps moving, regulate it. And if it stops moving,. subsidize it. Ronald Reagan" " The government's job is to protect the people, not run their lives". Ronald Reagan " Government always costs you money". Rush Limbaugh Quote
Members Go2Tex Posted January 14, 2009 Members Report Posted January 14, 2009 Common sence went out when we relected the people who created this economic problem. Maybe all leather goods should be rated X. "We" ?? Speak for yourself. I didn't re-elect any of them. As for assigning blame for the economic problems, it's just too complex to figure it out. One thing is certain, however. If it turns out to be largely the fault of the Liberal policies of the last 40 years that the mainstream media has been enfluencing our electoral process and controlling and manipulating public opinion, we'll never be told. And the problems will just continue to get worse. Quote Brent Tubre email: BCL@ziplinkmail.com
Members jbird Posted January 14, 2009 Members Report Posted January 14, 2009 (edited) I agree with brent on this one we are not in control we have now say in the matter we are just here to pay are taxes the media is not looking out for us. Josh Edited January 14, 2009 by jbird Quote Josh Dusty Chaps Leather & Seven O Saddle Shop 801-809-8456 Keep moving forward! On a horse. Hebrews 4:12 My link
Members dirtbag77 Posted February 17, 2009 Members Report Posted February 17, 2009 This post got pretty far off topic, but I'm in! The media isn't liberal. Media is a multibillion dollar business. Rupert Murdoch, the second most powerful man in the busines world according to FORTUNE is the media. The people who work for the media are often liberal. But if you are getting to hear a reporter or columnist's opinion and it has a liberal slant, be assured that in the long run, it serves the purpose of somebody like Murdoch, or really the man himself. Noboy's been hearing jack shinola from the so called "liberal media" about a need to regulate the bank loaning system for the last 5 years. I guess the papers and news channels didn't get their liberal memo. Saying media is liberal is like saying a college is liberal. The teachers and students and janitors may be, but the people running the school are rich dudes and banks who are making BILLIONS of dollars. Liberal media? puhlease. As for this law, I'd bet my left one that hurting boutique-type businesses isn't only an afterthought, it is the actual purpose of the thing. The end result of this law isn't going to affect imported and dangerous crap, and the companies know it. It's gonna cost them a few hundred thousand more to eliminate the threat of grassroots competition. Remember what happened when people realized how screwed up genetically modified foods were and started buying more organic? The exact same things. Instead of affecting the huge companies who sell you dangerous foods, more regulations were put out to make farmers do more drastic and counterproductive things like more irradiating and adding more bacterias to the foods. These things were really meant to put the small guys out of business. An organic farmer isn't going to do these things and survive, and they know it. A small toy store or furniture maker or LEATHERCRAFTSMAN isn't either. Rest assured, if there is any real money to be made off of what you are doing, you are a target of exactly this wolf in sheep's clothing type of law. It isn't about sending tax money to the government at all, it is about getting rid of ANY competition for big businesses. Quote
Members Washroad Posted February 18, 2009 Members Report Posted February 18, 2009 Click here... http://www.arra-access.com/arra/home.html and read how congress is intending to stop the sale of small ATVs because of lead content. So, if this becomes law, we can no longer buy the small ATVs for children, even though the lead level has NEVER been harmful to anyone. Gotta have Big Brother take care of me.....where's my welfare check/ bailout money? Yes, the media is liberal for the most part. OK, the guy that owns it is rich, so? It's all about money and power. You get the money, now you want the power. Al "I'm a lying no good fraud" Gore is an example; he's managed to raise close to $500 million in his campaign to stop global warming (even though he doesn't walk the walk, he just shoots his mouth off when he should be shooting something else). He's gotten the ear of obama, most of the liberal members of congress (who know so much better how I should live than I do myself) and now STUPID laws are going in effect and have been because of scum sucking camel lickers like him. I think the lead laws are ridiculous, stupid. and I'm truly worried about America. Quote Brian It's YOUR life; rise up and LIVE it!
Members Windy Posted February 18, 2009 Members Report Posted February 18, 2009 Click here... http://www.arra-access.com/arra/home.html and read how congress is intending to stop the sale of small ATVs because of lead content. So, if this becomes law, we can no longer buy the small ATVs for children, even though the lead level has NEVER been harmful to anyone. Gotta have Big Brother take care of me.....where's my welfare check/ bailout money? Yes, the media is liberal for the most part. OK, the guy that owns it is rich, so? It's all about money and power. You get the money, now you want the power. Al "I'm a lying no good fraud" Gore is an example; he's managed to raise close to $500 million in his campaign to stop global warming (even though he doesn't walk the walk, he just shoots his mouth off when he should be shooting something else). He's gotten the ear of obama, most of the liberal members of congress (who know so much better how I should live than I do myself) and now STUPID laws are going in effect and have been because of scum sucking camel lickers like him. I think the lead laws are ridiculous, stupid. and I'm truly worried about America. Now come out of that shell and tell us what you really think. I was a little confused about how you feel about Al Gore and the rest of the liberals in the United States. I guess being the conservative republican I am makes it hard to understand just how you feel about this subject.Once again could you be more specific about your feelings towards liberals. WINDY Quote To all those who think ..........................
Members dirtbag77 Posted February 19, 2009 Members Report Posted February 19, 2009 "Yes, the media is liberal for the most part. OK, the guy that owns it is rich, so?" This is the kind of dismissive thing you have to do to live in the black and white world of conserative and liberal. And you're wrong. The owner is everything in business. Bill Gates is Microsoft. Richard Branson is Virgin. Rupert Murdoch is the majority of media at this ponit. Also, whose been conservative in the last 50 years? Nobody. You don't get a trillion dollars in debt in 8 years being conservative. You don't get the patriot act by being conservative. Now being conservative means a belief in Lazes-faire economics. And that's not exclusive to republicans. Clinton gave us NAFTA. Do you know what other successful and thriving nations in the history of man also practiced unregulated national economics? NONE OF THEM. Do you know how many of the countries that currently milk our country of it's GNP practice lazes-faire economics? NONE OF THEM. So the idea of liberal and conservative that the media has fed to the type of people who say things like "liberal media" and "elitist left" is a cheesy myth. The reason we are losing all of our rights is because it makes good economic sense for the people who are actually making our choices for us, corporations. Not even American ones! The reason that people are bugging us about lead is because there is an actual ecological problem that can't be handled because it isn't economically viable. So we pay the price with this 'chairs off the Titanic' type legislation. A company that dumps more lead into a creek in a week than all of the ATV's and chinese toys in the world could match is never going to do anything. And the bummer is that so many people have been suckered into believing that the reason is because it's the companies freedom to do so. Wrong. Believe it or not, corporations are not actually people! A person can't destroy a whole city or lake or government. So corporations get their own laws and aren't supposed to be free like us. They're just a business. It's just that there's not much of a lobby for small time toy manufacturers and people who make bow quivers and SCA belts. And I'm no tree hugger, but if you actually want to go with the idea that there aren't drastic ecological consequences already being payed and that all of the scientists in the world (who don't work for Exxon) are wrong, then never mind. Forget you because you've been too politicized to even not want to die. Not dying is not a Republican or Democratic or American idea. Eh, I'm sorry. I joined this site for fun and this ain't. I just let politics riun my fun... again. I'm gonna go look at pictures of guitar straps! Later. Quote
Members Washroad Posted February 19, 2009 Members Report Posted February 19, 2009 Eh, I'm sorry. I joined this site for fun and this ain't. I just let politics riun my fun... again. I'm gonna go look at pictures of guitar straps! Later. I joined this site to learn and have a good time also! and I am! I grew up arguing politics with my family and friends. I always respect another's opinion (unless you're a politician). I think everything is political and that doesn't make it bad. Windy, I know I shouldn't sugar-coat things! But I'm not a Republican. I don't like Republicans anymore than I like Democrats. I'm a Libertarian (should I duck now???). My opinion (just like George Carlin's); the planet is fine. It's the people that are *************!! Quote Brian It's YOUR life; rise up and LIVE it!
Members Windy Posted February 20, 2009 Members Report Posted February 20, 2009 Windy, I know I shouldn't sugar-coat things! But I'm not a Republican. I don't like Republicans anymore than I like Democrats. I'm a Libertarian (should I duck now???). My opinion (just like George Carlin's); the planet is fine. It's the people that are *************!! Washroad , Why should you duck? I do not base my friendship with others on their politics nor do I choose with whom I speak based on politics.If all the people around me agreed with me all I would hear all day would be "yes Windy you are right again". I will tell you that hearing this half the day is boring enough, hearing it all day would just plain drive me nuts. So feel free to voice your opinions on every subject here. Just remember without differences we would all have long hair and beards and drive blue Ford pick ups while wearing Levi's and t-shirts that say Mitchell Brothers Masonry on them. WINDY Quote To all those who think ..........................
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