Members IvoryCreek Posted February 11, 2017 Author Members Report Posted February 11, 2017 up to maybe 4? you think poor speed control has to do with the type of material I sew? Quote
Members sandyt Posted February 11, 2017 Members Report Posted February 11, 2017 I have never owned a Sailrite. So I am just guessing, sorry. But from what I have read about them, it's possible you are just asking to much from this little motor. Are you using a sharp and correct leather point needle with the correct thread size? This could also help a lot if it's wrong. Sounds to me the motor is struggling to punch through at low speed (less power). But again, I never owned a Sailrite. Sandy. Quote
Moderator Wizcrafts Posted February 11, 2017 Moderator Report Posted February 11, 2017 Again, the Monster II wheel should help get the machine going when you sew leather. Call Matt at Sailrite and talk to him. Quote Posted IMHO, by Wiz My current crop of sewing machines: Cowboy CB4500, Singer 107w3, Singer 139w109, Singer 168G101, Singer 29k71, Singer 31-15, Singer 111w103, Singer 211G156, Adler 30-7 on power stand, Techsew 2700, Fortuna power skiver and a Pfaff 4 thread 2 needle serger.
Members IvoryCreek Posted February 11, 2017 Author Members Report Posted February 11, 2017 will do that Monday Quote
Members ZigZag Posted February 12, 2017 Members Report Posted February 12, 2017 The buzzing sound is Common and is the machine struggling to get through the material. I would say you are finding the limits of the machine with 4 layers of 3oz leather. It's possible there simply isn't enough torque from the motor to punch through that material at slow speeds. As a test I would suggest trying just 2 layers of something like jean fabric and see how well the slow speed control works. If you are still having trouble, then almost certainly a pedal issue. On fabrics like that men has a nice linear speed control that progressively gets faster with pedal pressure. Quote Typical TSC441, Juki 1508, Singer 201, Singer 29k, Sailrite LSZ, Pfaff 238, Pfaff 335, Adler 98, Adler 166
Members dikman Posted February 13, 2017 Members Report Posted February 13, 2017 Just looked at the specs. for the motor and at 1/10th HP and 1.5 A I would consider it on the puny side for driving needles through leather. Probably not much different to the motor on my domestic Singer, and that buzzes (and stops) if I try to make it do too much. Quote Machines wot I have - Singer 51W59; Singer 331K4; Seiko STH-8BLD; Pfaff 335; CB4500. Chinese shoe patcher; Singer 201K (old hand crank)
Moderator Wizcrafts Posted February 13, 2017 Moderator Report Posted February 13, 2017 4 hours ago, dikman said: Just looked at the specs. for the motor and at 1/10th HP and 1.5 A I would consider it on the puny side for driving needles through leather. Probably not much different to the motor on my domestic Singer, and that buzzes (and stops) if I try to make it do too much. The Sailrite portable machine motors feed a small speed reducer pulley that mounts on the right end of the machine, hidden by the flywheel. It looks to be at least 3:1 reduction. But, as you pointed out, the combination is still weak compared to a half horsepower industrial motor, especially if that motor feeds a 2:1 reducer. Torque is multiplied by the same ratio as the speed reduction. Quote Posted IMHO, by Wiz My current crop of sewing machines: Cowboy CB4500, Singer 107w3, Singer 139w109, Singer 168G101, Singer 29k71, Singer 31-15, Singer 111w103, Singer 211G156, Adler 30-7 on power stand, Techsew 2700, Fortuna power skiver and a Pfaff 4 thread 2 needle serger.
Members dikman Posted February 13, 2017 Members Report Posted February 13, 2017 Thanks Wiz, there's no way I could have figured that out from the photos. Quite a neat setup, in that case, but yeah, that motor is still essentially a domestic machine motor. I guess they had little choice, though, in trying to make it a compact, portable machine. Quote Machines wot I have - Singer 51W59; Singer 331K4; Seiko STH-8BLD; Pfaff 335; CB4500. Chinese shoe patcher; Singer 201K (old hand crank)
Moderator Wizcrafts Posted February 13, 2017 Moderator Report Posted February 13, 2017 I suspect from reading the description on Sailrite's web page for the Monster II wheel that it is bigger around than the Power Plus wheel. Unfortunately, they don't list the diameters of those "balance" wheels (flywheels). The Monster II Wheel weighs 7 pounds. That, coupled with a probable larger circumference, would make for more punching power at startup speeds. Now, it's up to the OP to contact Sailrite about these differences and let us all know the outcome. Quote Posted IMHO, by Wiz My current crop of sewing machines: Cowboy CB4500, Singer 107w3, Singer 139w109, Singer 168G101, Singer 29k71, Singer 31-15, Singer 111w103, Singer 211G156, Adler 30-7 on power stand, Techsew 2700, Fortuna power skiver and a Pfaff 4 thread 2 needle serger.
Members IvoryCreek Posted February 14, 2017 Author Members Report Posted February 14, 2017 Thank you for the analysis. I've called up Sailrite and they also think what I'm describing may indicate the pedal control is faulty. I'm waiting for their technical specialist to call me back with the troubleshooting instructions. I will update again then. Quote
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