Pfaff 335 binding attachment on Seiko CW-8b(consew 227)

[Jordanball33]

Ok I've searched as much as I could but can't find the answe so I gotta ask. I found this pfaff 335 binding attachment plate and then matching 90 degree binder.  I need something quick to start a binding project. 

 

I know the the best route is an attachment company but I need to do this asap and then will wait on the attachment company. Does anyone see any reason this pfaff attachment plate wouldn't fit my seiko?

i am ok with modifying it but thought this a better starting option that someone trying to make all from steel. There are many home made binders I've seen and thats all I'm trying to duplicate. No inside corners and will do it very slow and watch each stitch. 

 

[patria]

I have both machine (style), i dont think the binder parts for pfaff 335 style will work on the seiko cw8 

Or maybe someone with more experience on tinkering sewing machine can shed some more light

[Uwe]

I'm afraid almost nothing form that Pfaff 335 binding kit will fit on a Consew 227. The cylinder arms are totally different. The off-the-shelf binder you're looking for will be similar to this KHF-48 style binder made by Kwok Hing for large diameter cylinder arm swing machines.(http://www.kwokhing.com/KHF/app/app_bi_cy.htm) 

 

Edited May 15, 2017 by Uwe

[Jordanball33]

Yes sir. I can't figure out how to order from them. Do you know? I'll pay to rush from China if I can order it. 

 

Thanks for for the help so far

[SARK9]

One thing about off-the-shelf binders in general, assuming you find one to mount on your Seiko, is they are usually made to accept pretty thin materials, and wont feed or fold properly if you go to a bit thicker or wider material than their design specs....some don't ever seem to work well even then. The folders from Suisei have a good reputation for off-the-shelf functionality. One of the advertisers here may handle them, or you can call Sailrite to see about a rush purchase. You WILL need to tell them what you are using it with, if you can use an in inline or need a right angle folder, if its for single "raw edge" tape or double fold/bias/straight fabric, how thick the tape and material to be bound is, and how wide the tape you want to use is. You also may need the correct feet/feed dog and needle plates, depending on what you are trying to do. Assembling random folder components which will produce professional grade results for demanding clients can be.....problematic. Good luck!

-DC

Edited May 15, 2017 by SARK9

[Jordanball33]

Ok I "folded" and ordered from Atlanta attachment. 

[Uwe]

When you get a chance, please let us know exactly what you ordered and how it worked out. Did the folks at Altanta Attachment offer any insights you care to share?

[Jordanball33]

I'll report back when it arrives and post pictures/videos for anyone interested. 

The main thing that sold me was that they said yes. We can make it work. And that's what I couldn't figure out before talking with them. 

[gottaknow]

2 hours ago, Jordanball33 said:

I'll report back when it arrives and post pictures/videos for anyone interested. 

The main thing that sold me was that they said yes. We can make it work. And that's what I couldn't figure out before talking with them. 

John Price at Atlanta Att. is one of the most knowledgeable folder guys I've ever dealt with. Their folders are works of art.

Regards, Eric

[patria]

if you dont mind, how much it cost to make custom folder like that on dedicated and well known company like atlanta attachement?

[Mark842]

I'm curious to see what you got and how it works also. I have a Suisei Top Bottom double fold that I use with my Cobra 4. Works great with canvas and vinyl. Hasn't worked too good with leather as it can't handle the thickness.

It's been sitting on the shelf waiting for me to put on my gee whiz hat and rebuild it to handle 2 oz...Unless I can find one that will out of the box for a reasonable price.

[Jordanball33]

On 5/16/2017 at 9:52 PM, patria said:

if you dont mind, how much it cost to make custom folder like that on dedicated and well known company like atlanta attachement?

$225

 

 

 

[Jordanball33]

This is the binder. It's a 7/8 and is on a swing away bracket. I'm anxious to try it. Have been for the last two weeks or so since I got it. But I messed up and bought a lemon of a machine. 

 

[Uwe]

As a follow-up to my earlier post, I ordered a sample of the KHF48 binder kit made by Kwok Hing (retails for around $65 including the tape folder). It fits nicely on my Singer 153W102, so there's a good chance it might also fit a Consew 227 (but it didn't fit my Juki 341 or DA 269). Here are some pictures of the KHF48 installed on the SInger 153W102:

 

 

[Jordanball33]

Man that is nice. I'm happy with mine from Atlanta attachment but that price on the kwok hing is awesome. Do you sell any hem attachments? I have a consew 206rb I may try and set up for hemming heavy canvas.

[Uwe]

13 minutes ago, Jordanball33 said:

Do you sell any hem attachments?

Sorry, I don't have any hem attachments. 

[gottaknow]

1 hour ago, Jordanball33 said:

Man that is nice. I'm happy with mine from Atlanta attachment but that price on the kwok hing is awesome. Do you sell any hem attachments? I have a consew 206rb I may try and set up for hemming heavy canvas.

Hemming folders come in two styles. Turn up and turn down. The turn up are the easiest to use, but your outside of the hem ends up with the bobbin thread. It can be more challenging to make it look good on canvas. Turn down folders create beautiful hems, but have a steeper learning curve. What ever you decide, make sure the folder is big enough to handle any seams you'll need to cross. A way around that is to use a swing away mount to pull it out of the folder in order to cross a seam. As a general rule, I always mount hemming folders on swing away mounts. When ordering, specify the desired finished width and the turn under amount. On a typical 1" folder, you'd typically specify the turn under amount as half the finished size. So for a 1" hem, your turn under would be a 1/2". That means you'd need to add 1 1/2" to your desired finished project size.

Regards, Eric