Members BDAZ Posted April 29, 2018 Author Members Report Posted April 29, 2018 Just an update, I have been using HeatnBond on all my production products for both suede and fabric lining. The results are fantastic. I have had no failures in hundreds of products shipped and no ruined items either. The only issues I have had is forgetting to remove the release paper before closing the press. I have saved a huge amount of production time. "Drying time" is now 15 seconds. I also have replaced gluing edges prior to stitching with Tandy double sided tape in 1/4 and 1/8 widths. Another huge time saving. I do find that the tape won't adhere well to some fabrics I use for lining until I wipe down the edges with alcohol. I have also purchased a tacking iron for more difficult items when I want the lining to be absolutely stable before closing the press. I only need 1/4 overlap instead of an inch when I used spray adhesive. If you want to test it, Heat n Bond is available at Walmarts. You can use a home iron set to +-300F. I use 250F on the press for 30 seconds. Bob Quote
Members Sheilajeanne Posted July 2, 2018 Members Report Posted July 2, 2018 (edited) I think this thread just save a tote bag project I made a huge mistake on. I lined what I THOUGHT was going to be the inside of the bag with lightweight pigskin. When it came time to assemble the bag, I realized the inside was going to be the ugly, fuzzy unlined leather, that had splotches of dye on it! I spent the night dreaming about how I could fix this. Nothing came to mind that wasn't going to be a huge hassle, and take up tons of time as well as restitching most of the bag. Even then, I would likely have bare suede showing at the top of the tote! Then, I searched for tote lining and came up with this! Walmart, here I come! I am still going to have to restitch 3 seams, including the most difficult one, where the 4 layers of the bag come together at the bottom, but meh, if the fugly inside of the tote is then hidden, I'm good with that! All 4 sides of the new liner will be stitched, so I don't have to worry about separation, even if the union between leather and liner isn't perfect. Is it more difficult to get this stuff to stick to fuzzy cheap leather than the smoother stuff? Will tackle a more sophisticated bag liner with my next project. Have FINALLY been able to find that Molly tote kit I've been searching for for so long! It turned out my friendly neighbourhood Tandy's in Barrie had 2 of them at the deeply discounted price of $67.00!! Oh, was I a happy camper on Friday!! Edited July 2, 2018 by Sheilajeanne Quote
Members BDAZ Posted July 2, 2018 Author Members Report Posted July 2, 2018 I have recently been using HeatnBond to laminate ink jet printed canvas and fabric to the flesh side of leather. I have has no issues with HeatNBond sticking to the fussy side of linings. I use a setting of 250F for 30 seconds on my press. For an Iron, I would follow their suggestions, maybe a bit higher and of course, don't skimp on the pressure. Bob Quote
Members Sheilajeanne Posted July 2, 2018 Members Report Posted July 2, 2018 (edited) Thanks, Bob! Yes, will be using an iron. Don't have a heat press. Now, if only I can find a way to hide the ugly glue splotches on the outside of the back of the bag that happened when I glued the other liner pieces... Bye, bye glue splotches from now on! Edited July 2, 2018 by Sheilajeanne Quote
Members Sheilajeanne Posted July 2, 2018 Members Report Posted July 2, 2018 Yeah, I watched that already! Quote
Members Sheilajeanne Posted July 2, 2018 Members Report Posted July 2, 2018 This is SUCH a great site! Don't know where I'd be without it! Quote
Members BDAZ Posted July 2, 2018 Author Members Report Posted July 2, 2018 Just do some testing with time/temperature and pressure first. Leather is thicker and more heat resistant than fabric but works great! It has cut my production time in half for all my lined products. Bob Quote
Members Sheilajeanne Posted July 3, 2018 Members Report Posted July 3, 2018 Okay, Bob, had a bit of a disaster last night. I bought the Heat n'Bond Lite. They had 3 different kinds, and this one was the cheapest. Unfortunately, the ironing time is only 1 to 2 seconds. Any more, and you destroy the plastic's ability to bond. Then you have to remove it and start all over!! I tell ya, once this stuff bonds, you have to SAND it off!! It becomes one with the leather, especially if the leather is fuzzy! I tried a test piece, after my first disaster, and even though I kept the contact time with the iron to a minimum, the lining still did not bond well to the liner I was trying to apply. What type of Heat n'Bond do you use, Bob? You mention a heating time of 30 seconds, so obviously it's a different type. I went back to Wal Mart today, but the other type they have has the same ironing time, and the third type is for single-sided application, as a protective surface for your project. Quote
Members BDAZ Posted July 3, 2018 Author Members Report Posted July 3, 2018 (edited) You bought the wrong stuff. Did you see the video? Remember that the first application is just to tack the sheet to the lining. It doesn't have to bond, just stay in place while you remove the release paper and place on the leather piece. I tack the HnB for 3 seconds or so. It would easily peel off at this stage. Once placed on the piece I use 30 seconds on the press and I would follow their directions but keep up the pressure. I also throw the piece lining side down on granite to cool under pressure. It's actually pretty simple and works 100% Bob Edited July 3, 2018 by BDAZ Quote
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