Myim74 Report post Posted August 8, 2017 I have been doing some research on singer machines for leathers and wanted to know if anyone had some more info or experiences with these machines. Heavy duty 4411 Quantum 9960 most expensive of the 3 Industrial 191D-20c i will be using it for everyday sewing and would like to see thicker leathers at times. Thank you for your time. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Uwe Report post Posted August 8, 2017 All three machines you listed are garment/embroidery machines in the domestic range. The 191-20C appears to be the strongest of the three. The only thing heavy duty about the Singer Heavy Duty 441 is the marketing hype and the paint color. None of them are well suited for sewing leather beyond a layer or two of very thin, soft garment weight leather. Plan for two machines, one that does your light garment work (domestic is fine here), and a second machine to do the leather work properly. Check out this thread to get an idea on the type of sewing machine you need to sew leather: Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Myim74 Report post Posted August 8, 2017 Thank you for your thorough reply, I'm located in Indonesia so options are not that great. I will look this over ^^ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wizcrafts Report post Posted August 8, 2017 43 minutes ago, Myim74 said: Thank you for your thorough reply, I'm located in Indonesia so options are not that great. I will look this over ^^ There are garment factories and upholsterers in Indonesia. Try to find a few and contact them about possibly getting a machine they have retired or plan to retire. Ask for a "walking foot machine." These would have triple feed, two feet (inside and outside) that alternate up and down, while the inside foot, needle and feed dog move the material. Most brands are now made somewhere in China, Korea, or Indo-China. I believe that we have a member here who lives in Indonesia and has inherited a warehouse full of all manner of industrial sewing machines. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dikman Report post Posted August 8, 2017 That would be Patria. As I understand it he hasn't "inherited" it - yet - but it's in the family and he's making use of what's in it. More like an Aladdin's Cave than a warehouse, I reckon! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Myim74 Report post Posted August 9, 2017 (edited) Thanks Guys! They have a surplus of Typical machines out here saw a good demo on a GC-0605A any recommendations on Typical machines and will I be able to sew lighter matierials like nylon, cotton ect? Edited August 9, 2017 by Myim74 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
