Sledzep01 Report post Posted January 4, 2018 So after trying to stitch a few times with the Shetland Pony (Thank you Thor's Hammer Milinior???) I have decided to actually create something to stitch on. There are many designs I can find online. The question I have is... How wide at the top? All the ones I see are only about 4-6 inches wide. I certainly expect to make mine at least 6 inches wide/long. Should I? or is there a reason to keep it thinner? Also, is there a name for the type of thing that can be adjusted (threaded rod) but then you just lever it up or down and it's locked? I would love to Google that and use it instead of just a wing nut type thing. Also, I you have a link online to one you chose and built and enjoy I would certainly accept that. I have plenty of 1x9's, 2x6 & 8's, 2x4's plywood etc etc I have basic tools, so this cannot be fancy Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sledzep01 Report post Posted January 4, 2018 Whoops I think I want a clam?? Not a Pony. So I would sit on a board on a chair. I do not want to make an entire bench. Sled Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Instinctive Report post Posted January 4, 2018 Well I built a "Hony". Combination Horse and pony. Basically a pony with an extension to make room for my not average gurth. Mine is 4.5" wide because that was the width of the pine board I made it from. Here is the link to the Cam Leaver you speak about http://www.leevalley.com/en/hardware/page.aspx?cat=3,43576,61995,61993&p=61993 Couple of pics of what it looks like. Fancier than it needs to be. That thumb knob for the rotating head is also from Lee Valley. http://www.leevalley.com/en/hardware/page.aspx?cat=3,43576,61995,61629&p=61629 Hope this helps. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sledzep01 Report post Posted January 4, 2018 Exactly what I want. Since posting my question earlier I have almost finished cutting 2 out. but when testing my "Girth Adjustment I realized it needs More adjustment I found everything just walking through my house. All the wood, some bolts, hinges. I will definitely be ordering those 2 items you posted, My plan is to create a padded 1x10 of correct girth adjustment. Attached to 2 2x4's with their outer edges made 1/2 round with a router. a 2x4 between with a hinge on 1 of the 2x4 towers, and at the top 2 pieces of 45 degree 1x3 cedar 8 inches wide that I found in the basement. So very similar to yours, but with an 8 inch jaw Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MakerUnknown Report post Posted January 4, 2018 In my universe, anything that can catch a thread will catch a thread. I'll search tomorrow for some pics of my futile attempt to to circumvent that law. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sledzep01 Report post Posted January 4, 2018 8 hours ago, MakerUnknown said: In my universe, anything that can catch a thread will catch a thread. I'll search tomorrow for some pics of my futile attempt to to circumvent that law. I have been fighting that for over a year. Her Name is Quinn. she is 1.5yrs old now but still a kitten. if she sneaks in the room anything is game! If I understand YOUR meaning its sand and seal everything? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MakerUnknown Report post Posted January 4, 2018 Ha! Hadn't thought of a cat. But yes. I pulled this out of another thread on the subject awhile back. Although I don't think this is finished, this is how I built mine and use it. I wanted to accomplish a couple things with the design. I didn't want something running through the body of the horse as the method of clamping. I think a bolt running inside the horse would get in the way if you needed to clamp a longer piece. I didn't want objects on the outside of the horse that would catch the loops of thread while sewing. And I wanted a quick way of applying pressure and releasing the pressure in order to move the piece. So what I came up with is this. A thin flexible piece of wood that exerts the side force by being in tension. It works. There's a wide range of thickness it will accommodate within it's range. I lift up to release pressure, move the leather, release the thin board and the pressure is right back on it. I clamp the whole horse to my workbench and work standing up. I don't own a TV and have no need to sit and watch something while I'm stitching....it's better for you anyway to stand. So far loops of thread run on it without catching onto anything. I say it's not finished because I want to come up with a system that I can change the anchoring point for the lower part of the thin flexible wood quickly without needing a clamp. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sledzep01 Report post Posted January 4, 2018 1 hour ago, MakerUnknown said: Ha! Hadn't thought of a cat. But yes. I pulled this out of another thread on the subject awhile back. Although I don't think this is finished, this is how I built mine and use it. I wanted to accomplish a couple things with the design. I didn't want something running through the body of the horse as the method of clamping. I think a bolt running inside the horse would get in the way if you needed to clamp a longer piece. I didn't want objects on the outside of the horse that would catch the loops of thread while sewing. And I wanted a quick way of applying pressure and releasing the pressure in order to move the piece. So what I came up with is this. A thin flexible piece of wood that exerts the side force by being in tension. It works. There's a wide range of thickness it will accommodate within it's range. I lift up to release pressure, move the leather, release the thin board and the pressure is right back on it. I clamp the whole horse to my workbench and work standing up. I don't own a TV and have no need to sit and watch something while I'm stitching....it's better for you anyway to stand. So far loops of thread run on it without catching onto anything. I say it's not finished because I want to come up with a system that I can change the anchoring point for the lower part of the thin flexible wood quickly without needing a clamp. That looks great, and the no catching on handles is a good idea. But that looks too something for me, hard to say for sure, I think I would break the thin pressure board. I have a habit of over tightening many things. I do own a TV but do not watch while stitching. I do listen sometimes, but mostly its music in the background. I would consider something like that (Standing and nothing in the center) when I move up to real bags. I have cut enough pieces for 2 clams already, and even found some of the star nuts mentioned above just laying in a tool box. I just needs some bolts for now... Naturally I am already thinking of a way to upgrade it. how do you determine the angle and length of board to use in your design? Sled Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sledzep01 Report post Posted January 5, 2018 On 1/4/2018 at 11:58 AM, MakerUnknown said: Ha! Hadn't thought of a cat. But yes. I pulled this out of another thread on the subject awhile back. Although I don't think this is finished, this is how I built mine and use it. I wanted to accomplish a couple things with the design. I didn't want something running through the body of the horse as the method of clamping. I think a bolt running inside the horse would get in the way if you needed to clamp a longer piece. I didn't want objects on the outside of the horse that would catch the loops of thread while sewing. And I wanted a quick way of applying pressure and releasing the pressure in order to move the piece. So what I came up with is this. A thin flexible piece of wood that exerts the side force by being in tension. It works. There's a wide range of thickness it will accommodate within it's range. I lift up to release pressure, move the leather, release the thin board and the pressure is right back on it. I clamp the whole horse to my workbench and work standing up. I don't own a TV and have no need to sit and watch something while I'm stitching....it's better for you anyway to stand. So far loops of thread run on it without catching onto anything. I say it's not finished because I want to come up with a system that I can change the anchoring point for the lower part of the thin flexible wood quickly without needing a clamp. Do you think that system would work and 2 4ft tall pieces of 2x6 cedar? What wood would I use for the flexible part that gives the pressure? My creativity wheels are in high gear. Sled Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MakerUnknown Report post Posted January 5, 2018 (edited) 4'? I don't see why not but you would need a large distance away from that for the "go bars". It's a very old method of clamping, using something under tension to apply force. They're used in framing walls on a house to not only position the wall vertically but if you need to pull or push the middle sections. Go Bars sold here to be used here in luthier applications. Which material you use would be an experiment for you. Something rigid enough but flexible..Sounds like a Zen koan. Edited January 5, 2018 by MakerUnknown To insert the word "the" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MakerUnknown Report post Posted January 5, 2018 Been thinking that maybe 4' might be a bit much. The clamping stick would need to be in quite a bit of tension which would necessitate a certain thickness which might make the force necessary to open up the clamp too much from an efficiency standpoint. But what the hey, won't know til you try. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sledzep01 Report post Posted January 5, 2018 Well my thought is that I have all of this wood. Enough to do at least 4 more like I already made (Pics here later) and I have 3? 2x6x8 pieces of cedar... Cut them in half, add hinges, attach to a piece of plywood to stand on and I would have a 4 foot tall standing clam. Since its almost as easy to make more than one at the same time I was going to see if there was anyone else in North GA that needed one or the other and invite them for a building party. I could easily just make it with a bolt or cam lever across, but your thought on having the clearance inside made me think of this... My plan was to have it to one side (in the middle) of a 2x4 piece of plywood so I could stand on it... and your board off to the right... Just that my creativity wants something done with that cedar since I found it in my basement (I live here 8 years) Besides all of the other wood. Sled Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sledzep01 Report post Posted January 5, 2018 And here is what I made. Keep in mind my Brain thinks straight... But my hand does not. you will see that the bottom needed "adjustment" but the top matches pretty good. Yes I will cover it with leather later tonight. I was just excited to share. I will sand the top even before I add the leather. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mjolnir Report post Posted January 5, 2018 Looking great! I'm guessing you are going to love that pony more than any you could have found on ebay Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sledzep01 Report post Posted January 5, 2018 13 minutes ago, Mjolnir said: Looking great! I'm guessing you are going to love that pony more than any you could have found on ebay You named my last one... What's this ones name?? Secretariat? Bog Hoss? Sled cant cut straight? Sled Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MakerUnknown Report post Posted January 5, 2018 T-Boner? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sledzep01 Report post Posted January 6, 2018 HAHAHAHAHA!!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mjolnir Report post Posted January 6, 2018 OK... ' The Sorghum Mule'. Look it up. I hope you like it Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sledzep01 Report post Posted January 6, 2018 I went with Evermore, as in Battle of.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
