Members radrider Posted February 8, 2018 Members Report Posted February 8, 2018 (edited) Hi all. Ive been lurking on this site for several months. It is a goldmine in knowledge no doubt...so here goes post #1 Just today i happened upon an ad from a furniture manufacture pretty much tossing out their machinery. 30 adler 291's with efka motors/control. Although they are 3 phase and i havnt got much clue how difficult it will be to convert i thought i would pic 2 up and see what you guys would reccomend. At 180 canadian each it felt like a pretty good deal. They are seemingly in good condition however i only have the word of the seller that they where all running 2 years ago and have been collecting dust since. So. My question is. Does this look like something i should invest time and money to get working? If so what would you recommend for conversion, what are the draw backs. Could anyone chime in on this setup and what they think about it? Edited February 8, 2018 by radrider Quote
Members radrider Posted February 8, 2018 Author Members Report Posted February 8, 2018 (edited) couple more pics. Does anyone know what the bulging chunk of metal in the middle of the motor is? I havnt been able to find any photos of a true twin machine online. Edited February 8, 2018 by radrider Quote
Members DrmCa Posted February 8, 2018 Members Report Posted February 8, 2018 Did you grab all 30? You should be able to re-sell them for at least 5x times what you paid. There are convertors on the market that can be used to feed 3x phase from 220 1x phase which can be had for a couple hundred bucks, and you'll still be ways ahead of going price of these machines. Do they have any of those machines left? I am on the market for a straight stitcher with a reverse... Quote Machines: Mitsubishi DB-130 single needle, Kansai Special RX-9803/UTC coverstitch, Union Special 56300F chainstitch, Pfaff 335-17 cylinder arm walking foot, Bonis Type A fur machine, Huji 43-6 patcher, Singer 99 hand cranked, Juki DDL-553 single needle (for sale)
Members radrider Posted February 8, 2018 Author Members Report Posted February 8, 2018 I did not buy the remaining machines, the number you can call if your interested in buying them is 647-459-0110, 5 hours ago there where still 30 remaining, mississuaga just beside the airport. Quote
Members DrmCa Posted February 8, 2018 Members Report Posted February 8, 2018 Thanks a lot, mate, really appreciate it. I was going to fall for a $300 old Juki, but now I'll buy one of these! Quote Machines: Mitsubishi DB-130 single needle, Kansai Special RX-9803/UTC coverstitch, Union Special 56300F chainstitch, Pfaff 335-17 cylinder arm walking foot, Bonis Type A fur machine, Huji 43-6 patcher, Singer 99 hand cranked, Juki DDL-553 single needle (for sale)
Members radrider Posted February 8, 2018 Author Members Report Posted February 8, 2018 (edited) 9 minutes ago, DrmCa said: Thanks a lot, mate, really appreciate it. I was going to fall for a $300 old Juki, but now I'll buy one of these! Make sure to go over them and check that bobbin cases arent missing, they have the correct walking feet, etc . also some had considerably more play in the needle bar than others, some where missing the efka display The seller is very friendly and seems honest, hes selling them for his boss to make room in the factory. Edited February 8, 2018 by radrider Quote
Uwe Posted February 9, 2018 Report Posted February 9, 2018 (edited) Well, the Toronto area should be good for a while with fancy vintage Durkopp machines. You can start a local Durkopp 291 support group! Some of these fancy full function packages are all-or-nothing propositions. Either it works or it doesn't. There's often not a whole lot of middle ground. Buy two or three. Trying to convert the head to a plain manual setup may not yield satisfactory results. If everything works as it should, they're a joy to use. One downside to super cheap, fancy vintage machines is that everything else afterward will seem super expensive. A decent rotary 3-phase converter and a quiet air compressor will cost considerably more than the machine, but the whole setup may be well worth it. Edited February 9, 2018 by Uwe Quote Uwe (pronounced "OOH-vuh" ) Links: Videos
bikermutt07 Posted February 9, 2018 Report Posted February 9, 2018 Am I missing something? Is there something requiring power in the head? If not, can't you just swap out the motor for a standard 110v servo? Quote I'm not paying 80 bucks for a belt!!! It's a strip of leather. How hard could it be? 4 years and 3 grand later.... I have a belt I can finally live with. Stitching is like gravy, it's only great if you make it every day. From Texas but in Bossier City, Louisiana.
Members radrider Posted February 9, 2018 Author Members Report Posted February 9, 2018 1 hour ago, bikermutt07 said: Am I missing something? Is there something requiring power in the head? If not, can't you just swap out the motor for a standard 110v servo? Swap to a 110v and lose all the auto features? My sewing shop seamed to think that was the better route to go, but I do very much prefer an automatic machine at this time, especially if it all works. (ive got an adler 167 and pfaff 545 and 1245 manual setups, but id like this to be an efficient workhorse) I may just be too noob but I couldn't locate a manual foot lift on the machine. The knee lift is air as well. Difficult to find much info on the 291, especially this variant with the big bulge on the bottom/middle of the machine arm, I havn't seen any photos of a machine with the same "bulge". Quote
Uwe Posted February 9, 2018 Report Posted February 9, 2018 I don't see a manual foot lift lever either. Quote Uwe (pronounced "OOH-vuh" ) Links: Videos
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