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  On 3/16/2018 at 9:44 PM, Uwe said:

On the far end of the spectrum is this super heavy duty Singer top+bottom feed zig zag machine. I'm not sure which model this is. I keep it on a dedicated hydraulic lift cart for a reason.

 

 

 

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I'm very interested in finding out what model Singer that is.  So far I've come up dry.

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The Brother TZ1-B652 was the basis for the original Sailright. It's a drop-feed machine that sews straight and zig-zag up to 10mm. Their specifications state a 12mm zig-zag width but my machines sew closer to 10mm. They do a pretty nice, long straight stitch.

I have two of them, one of them I've modified slightly to sew splices in rope up to 12mm in diameter. I set the length of the zig-zag stitch to about 0.5mm and sew four passes with #92 thread - two narrower passes and two full-width. Tested to failure, the rope breaks where the splice isn't, at over 8,000 lbs.

They have an interesting mechanism that changes the timing according to the stitch width, which makes a lot of sense.

The Sailright version comes in a wooden case with an attached, domestic-style motor and a hand crank. I added a 2amp motor to the other one and just set it on a bench when I need to sew a splice. The 2amp motor is adequate. I filed-out the slot on the presser foot to gain clearance and I added a shaft collar to the needle bar so that the hammering through thick rope doesn't drive the bar upward.

 

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  On 3/28/2018 at 3:19 PM, Gregg From Keystone Sewing said:

I'm very interested in finding out what model Singer that is.  So far I've come up dry.

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I was moving some machine around and found that I had two more of these little monsters hiding in the shadows and they had model type plates - yay!

I turns out they're Singer 47K5 machines (and they really have nothing in common with Singer 47W machines other than the Singer name)

Here are pictures of the black one with good restoration potential:

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Very interesting, I'll check my Singer books on these.

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I've been searching local and have a salesman who sells consew 199 for $1700 brand new, it is not a top feed, claims for what I need, attaching leather and denim patches on denim, this will be just fine, still slightly more power than I need.  In anyone's experience, what do ya think?  I can see how it should be more than adequate,  keep in mind I work with a 10oz stretch denim, 2.5oz or less leather.  Pants and jackets Slash from Guns N Roses would wear, not farmers denim :)

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  On 4/25/2018 at 12:39 PM, Dave84 said:

I've been searching local and have a salesman who sells consew 199 for $1700 brand new, it is not a top feed, claims for what I need, attaching leather and denim patches on denim, this will be just fine, still slightly more power than I need.  In anyone's experience, what do ya think?  I can see how it should be more than adequate,  keep in mind I work with a 10oz stretch denim, 2.5oz or less leather.  Pants and jackets Slash from Guns N Roses would wear, not farmers denim :)

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Sounds like your better off with a top bottom feed if you can find one.  

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I'm leaning towards a walking foot zig zag.  Should I need it for multiple layers of leather, full construction or patchwork, better to have what I need.  I've been looking at the Reliable 2600ZW?  I've been told Consew is not worth it at the steeper price, especially if this is not my main machine.  My Adler 167 is my workhorse.

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