New Thread Company Advice

[NVLeatherWorx]

7 hours ago, LetterT said:

Any news?

The last I spoke with Gary was about a week ago and he was still in the process of getting the original supplier to work out some issues with his desire to include a .6 thread to the line (I have been testing the threads for him so we have been keeping in touch).  He did mention though that they were starting to renegotiate the color scheme and he was not really thrilled with that one.  He also let me know that he has begun conversation with other potential manufacturers (one here in the U.S.) and that he would be getting back on that one.  Kind of been hoping for an update as well but he is putting all of his time into this to get it right before he launches.

[Stetson912]

Very interesting topic. For me, I like .8 and have been content with that. that said I haven't tried heavier but I do like .6 for wallets and smaller items. I think most people will use the .8 and heavier as it seems to be the trend to use thicker threads but I still think the .6 has a place (albiet smaller) for those that like the finer stitching. 

Anything smaller than .6 is I think more of a "specialty" for those that do more luxury items requiring much finer stitching. 

Anywho, I think there already is a good range of sizes and it will only be better if the .6 is added. And I'd love it if there was a US manufacturer of a synthetic bonded thread. Couldn't say I wouldn't switch over. 

[ScoobyNewbie]

The more, the merrier!

[LetterT]

@NVLeatherWorx

Thanks for the update, I was looking forward to having a German supplier. I have some relatives there that I could harass to bring me some spools when they visit.

[NVLeatherWorx]

23 hours ago, Stetson912 said:

Very interesting topic. For me, I like .8 and have been content with that. that said I haven't tried heavier but I do like .6 for wallets and smaller items. I think most people will use the .8 and heavier as it seems to be the trend to use thicker threads but I still think the .6 has a place (albiet smaller) for those that like the finer stitching. 

Anything smaller than .6 is I think more of a "specialty" for those that do more luxury items requiring much finer stitching. 

Anywho, I think there already is a good range of sizes and it will only be better if the .6 is added. And I'd love it if there was a US manufacturer of a synthetic bonded thread. Couldn't say I wouldn't switch over. 

I use 1.0 for all of the main stitching lines (wallet edges, outer edges on handbags, belts, etc.) and the .8 for all of the interior work.  I was using what would equate to a 1.4 when doing saddles but have long since left that part of the trade behind.  The U.S. manufacturer has indicated to Gary that they can make the exact same type of thread as he was getting from the German factory (which, by the way, was one of the former designers behind the Ritza 25 Tiger Thread line; when I tested their product for him I found it to be exactly like Tiger thread aside from the wax content was quite a bit less).

[Stetson912]

7 minutes ago, NVLeatherWorx said:

I use 1.0 for all of the main stitching lines (wallet edges, outer edges on handbags, belts, etc.) and the .8 for all of the interior work.

What spi do you stitch at respectively? I know this is all somewhat subjective but I'm open to trying new techniques and such 

That sounds like nice thread already! 

[Garyspruill]

Hey guys,

Sorry for the delay in posting, been out of the country. 

I am still in the battling process with the mfg's. Man are they slow! If a thread company and a snail had a speed race, the snail would win kind of slow.

My largest hangups: 

I want a hand thread that includes a 0.60 and certain colors. They (mfg's) want to start at 0.80 to 1.4, I want 0.60 to 1.2

Next is colors: simple stuff right?? Well, not so. Example: Yellow. Yes, yellow. Mfg wants a huge $$$$ to have this color, even though I have a contract with them to an open 25 color selection on my end. Its all the small stuff we have to go through to get to a synergy relationship. You do this, I do that, we are both happy.

This is pretty much where we are.

Logo's are done.Name of company is now trademarked.  Website is all but done (need to add the colors :-))))). Marketing channels are all but done here in the US. Have set up selling channels in many other countries to include France, Italy, England, Romania and Hungry.  

Had a wax issue with the thread that is now resolved, we went from not enough wax to way too much wax to now, just right (my opinion). That was a tough one.

 

It will not be long, 5 to 6 weeks is a guess.

 

While all this is going on, I am also working on a tool section, machine thread section and a paint section as well.

 

Thanks for the comments

 

Gary Spruill

[koreric75]

27 minutes ago, Garyspruill said:

Hey guys,

Sorry for the delay in posting, been out of the country. 

I am still in the battling process with the mfg's. Man are they slow! If a thread company and a snail had a speed race, the snail would win kind of slow.

My largest hangups: 

I want a hand thread that includes a 0.60 and certain colors. They (mfg's) want to start at 0.80 to 1.4, I want 0.60 to 1.2

Next is colors: simple stuff right?? Well, not so. Example: Yellow. Yes, yellow. Mfg wants a huge $$$$ to have this color, even though I have a contract with them to an open 25 color selection on my end. Its all the small stuff we have to go through to get to a synergy relationship. You do this, I do that, we are both happy.

This is pretty much where we are.

Logo's are done.Name of company is now trademarked.  Website is all but done (need to add the colors :-))))). Marketing channels are all but done here in the US. Have set up selling channels in many other countries to include France, Italy, England, Romania and Hungry.  

Had a wax issue with the thread that is now resolved, we went from not enough wax to way too much wax to now, just right (my opinion). That was a tough one.

 

It will not be long, 5 to 6 weeks is a guess.

 

While all this is going on, I am also working on a tool section, machine thread section and a paint section as well.

 

Thanks for the comments

 

Gary Spruill

well i already know i want some of that havanna cigar color...after seeing sample colors i instantly wanted some, but haven't found an affordable color to match

[ScoobyNewbie]

Oh, my god! The cigar is gorgeous in person! Beautiful hand feel! It has a wonderful shine!

I’m sorry I’m so slow Gary!

[Garyspruill]

3 hours ago, koreric75 said:

well i already know i want some of that havanna cigar color...after seeing sample colors i instantly wanted some, but haven't found an affordable color to match

If you like that cigar color, wait till you see the rest of the colors I am "fighting" for. :-)

Pulling the curtain back just a tad to tease: wait till you see the color: butter toffee or cream or caramel. You see a theme here??

Butter Toffee is in the cream color family with more tan in it. Super rich like a coffee creamer.

Cream is a really smooth true cream color that is super rich, really pops out on a red or buck brown leather

Caramel: OMG. looks just like a cube of caramel candy in a wrapper. I sewed a line with it in some really dark dark brown oil tanned leather and it looked like the inside of a mars bar.

I must have been hungry that day I was looking at colors.:-)