mick86 Report post Posted August 14, 2018 Another sheath for another of the knives I made. Went for a pancake sheath with sort of goth style. First time trying this style of sheath and took me two attempts. First one I failed by having the stitching too close to the blade profile so when I put the knife in, it cut the stitches. Second try I was sure to leave at least 5mm clearance either side of the blade and it works perfectly. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ScoobyNewbie Report post Posted August 14, 2018 OH! Cool! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mick86 Report post Posted August 14, 2018 1 hour ago, ScoobyNewbie said: OH! Cool! Cheers Scooby I'm pretty happy with it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
plinkercases Report post Posted August 14, 2018 If it is a good sharp blade it will eventually cut your threads again unfortunately unless you built the second version with a welt. blades have even cut out of the sheath when there is not welting in the design and that is a danger to the carrier more than a concern for a ruined sheath. That said that is a very cool looking design all round. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mick86 Report post Posted August 14, 2018 3 hours ago, plinkercases said: If it is a good sharp blade it will eventually cut your threads again unfortunately unless you built the second version with a welt. blades have even cut out of the sheath when there is not welting in the design and that is a danger to the carrier more than a concern for a ruined sheath. That said that is a very cool looking design all round. Ahhh bugger. Not even sure what a welt is. I got the idea from a youtube video besides changing the shape and design, I followed the same procedure. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stetson912 Report post Posted August 14, 2018 Very cool. But you will need a welt. All a welt is is a layer of leather in the shape of the sheath/blade, that is wide and thick enough to protect the stitching. Maybe this will help. That strip goes between the layers of the sheath and is stitched through like normal. But it adds thickness so the blade edge runs along the welt instead of cutting your stitches. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mick86 Report post Posted August 14, 2018 3 minutes ago, Stetson912 said: Very cool. But you will need a welt. All a welt is is a layer of leather in the shape of the sheath/blade, that is wide and thick enough to protect the stitching. That strip goes between the layers of the sheath and is stitched through like normal. But it adds thickness so the blade edge runs along the welt instead of cutting your stitches. Thanks for the heads up Stetson912 and Plinkercases. I googled the welt. Seems only logical now I know what it is. Looks like ill be remaking the sheath. I will improve the position of the spider and use lighter coloured thread while I'm at it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stetson912 Report post Posted August 14, 2018 Still did a killer job though. Just a thought, I could see a red hourglass on that spider btw haha Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mick86 Report post Posted August 14, 2018 2 minutes ago, Stetson912 said: Still did a killer job though. Just a thought, I could see a red hourglass on that spider btw haha LOL Yea I was thinking the same thing once it was complete. I'm glad to be able to have such useful info given to improve my work. This is my second sheath and 2nd lesson learnt. My first sheath looks good but it doesn't have a welt either and it was pointed out to me that it would sit too high on the hip for some people. So I now have two sheaths to remake. Strange thing is I'm somewhat looking forward to it haha. The internet is an awesome thing. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stetson912 Report post Posted August 14, 2018 Have you seen Ian Atkinson on YouTube? He makes a few sheaths start to finish on there.maybe worth a watch Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mick86 Report post Posted August 14, 2018 Just subscribed to his channel the other day. Haven't watched a lot yet. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
plinkercases Report post Posted August 14, 2018 (edited) These are good books if you are a blade and sheath maker. Internet is great but its nice sometimes to have a book on the bench as you work through something. Edited August 14, 2018 by plinkercases Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mick86 Report post Posted August 15, 2018 Thanks for that Plinkercases I have remade this sheath today. I just have to complete the belt loops tomorrow and than Ill post the pics. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
StarcrossedReed Report post Posted August 15, 2018 Looks cool. I like. Ian is awesome. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
battlemunky Report post Posted August 15, 2018 That looks really cool. You can probably use that sheath still even and just add a welt to it. Did you glue/cement them together? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mick86 Report post Posted August 16, 2018 5 hours ago, battlemunky said: That looks really cool. You can probably use that sheath still even and just add a welt to it. Did you glue/cement them together? Yea I glued them. I have remade the sheath but have now ran into another problem :/ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mick86 Report post Posted August 16, 2018 (edited) I made another sheath and added the welt as advised. Spider is centered better and is now a redback. But I now have a problem with my dye. I dyed the piece, let it dry and than when I put the clear sealer gloss stuff on it took some of the dye away leaving an uneven washed away look. Can I remove the finish somehow and try again? Or do I have to scrap it and try for third time lucky? Edited August 16, 2018 by mick86 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
battlemunky Report post Posted August 16, 2018 I would'nt feel too bad about it looking "washed out" I think it looks great and the welt looks good tucked down in there like that. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stetson912 Report post Posted August 16, 2018 Nice, that'll work. I don't think the dye job looks bad. What dye and finish are you using? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
plinkercases Report post Posted August 16, 2018 (edited) Nice rework of an already good design. Edited August 16, 2018 by plinkercases Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kiwican Report post Posted August 16, 2018 Looks bad ass man Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
YinTx Report post Posted August 16, 2018 If you are really offended by the color, you could always apply antique as a last ditch effort prior to donating to the scrap bin. Or just simply dye it black. Useable, but not the original intended look! I think it came out pretty cool. YinTx Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mick86 Report post Posted August 17, 2018 Thanks every one. I posted the same thing on Facebook and got similar feedback. Everyone likes the way it looks so I am pleased about that and will leave it as is. Its strange that this texture came out on the sheath for this knife because the knife itself had the same issue. I wanted it to have a black finish on the blade but it just wouldn't take a consistent patina so I just let it do its own thing. And Just like the sheath people loved the look of the random finish. So I'm very pleased. Thank you all for your input. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mike miller Report post Posted August 17, 2018 i would get some ferric chloride for putting a patina on your blade. Cut is 3 to 1 with distilled water and you will get a consistent finish after it is etched for a few minutes. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bullmoosepaddles Report post Posted August 17, 2018 Totally bad ass package. I like the spider sheath especially. The second knife just looks like it was born with purpose and intent. Thank you for sharing. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites