plinkercases Report post Posted October 10, 2018 (edited) This is a fascinating machine. advertised as hand crank singer but the treadle still has a belt AND it look like there is motor attached somehow...I think thats what the power cord is for unless the motor is just stuck in the picture? cant really tell and it seems like the power cord is tie wrapped to the machine neck? anyhow assuming the motor is not a part of the set up this looks like a fascinating machine. What is it? what can it handle? looks heavier duty than a patcher?. Edited October 10, 2018 by plinkercases Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dikman Report post Posted October 10, 2018 It looks like a slightly weird setup. That looks like a clutch motor mounted behind and you can just see a belt (black) going to the large pulley. The smaller pulley then has a belt (brown, presumably leather) connecting the crank wheel, BUT I can't see any obvious way of controlling the speed of the motor. If it's connected like it appears, then the motor is going to drive the large handwheel and the pedal while operating the machine. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wizcrafts Report post Posted October 10, 2018 No matter how it is powered, that is and always will be a Singer 29k-something patch machine. I can't tell if it has a small or large bobbin. The model number will reveal that. Singer patchers max out at 1/4 inch under the claw foot. You can sometimes coax them into sewing 5/16", but the foot will really claw up the top grain. Most small bobbin patchers max out with #69 bonded thread. You can use #92 if the machine is tight enough to pull the thread ahead for another stitch. The stitch length varies with the thickness under the foot. A factory condition 29k can sew up to 5 stitches per inch, at 1/8 inch, declining as the work gets thicker. A worn out feed mechanism will be lucky to get 7 or 8 per inch. This would be a great machine for sewing patches onto Bikers' vests and jackets, especially if it is motorized (you can guide the work with both hands). Stitch length won't matter if you use the same color thread as the embroidered edges. It can also sew shoe and boot uppers and small zippers, plus purse strap tabs. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Evo160K Report post Posted October 10, 2018 This one looks similar. I believe it belongs to LW member Shoepatcher. He'll know the details of the one in the ad. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CowboyBob Report post Posted October 10, 2018 Like Wiz said it's a 29 something,there's a model# on the brass tag behind the wheel ask them what it is & let us know. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shoepatcher Report post Posted October 10, 2018 That looks like a 29K51 or 53. Like Bob said, model # with be on the front brass plate. glenn Send us a few more pics if you can. glenn Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yetibelle Report post Posted October 10, 2018 I will bet its a 29k51. A great machine other than the small bobbin size that is common on 29 machines. I like the hand wheel on the side, those parts are harder to find. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Constabulary Report post Posted October 10, 2018 (edited) Not a 29K51 - 53 - it has a blade spring on the back side - the 29K5x subclass have helical presser foot spring it the head and no blade springs on the backside. I guess its an earlier 29K3 / K4 or the like. But its the later type treadle base. Edited October 10, 2018 by Constabulary Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shoepatcher Report post Posted October 11, 2018 Folker. You are correct. 51 and 53 have the vertical spring for foot tension. I missed that. That means it is probably 29k1 thru 22 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dikman Report post Posted October 11, 2018 Ok, so we sort of have a model number range, that's good, but I'm more interested in why it appears to have a clutch (?) motor apparently attached. Any more photos, plinker? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Constabulary Report post Posted October 11, 2018 3 hours ago, dikman said: Ok, so we sort of have a model number range, that's good, but I'm more interested in why it appears to have a clutch (?) motor apparently attached. Any more photos, plinker? smartass mode on: uuuuhm - for sewing? - smartass mode off. It´s no too unsual to run a patcher with a clutch motor. Adler even had a clutch motor mount for their caliber 30 machines - will look for pictures... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Constabulary Report post Posted October 11, 2018 (edited) Patcher motor mount (not mine) Edited October 11, 2018 by Constabulary Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dikman Report post Posted October 11, 2018 1 hour ago, Constabulary said: smartass mode on: uuuuhm - for sewing? - smartass mode off. Yeah, ok, I sort of asked for that I guess. I was referring to the apparently peculiar way it appears to be connected......where, for example, is the speed control? It has me intrigued. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
plinkercases Report post Posted October 11, 2018 These are the only photos as it is an add but the vendor says "yes it has an industrial motor attached and a variable speed foot pedal"..... too far away for me to go see but man it caught my attention with all its uniqueness. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dikman Report post Posted October 11, 2018 Thanks plinker, obviously not a clutch motor then. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
