David Posted February 2, 2008 Report Posted February 2, 2008 This "in progress" seat will be a different. There is no tooling on the front. The black suede split will be surrounded by black leather....All black veggie leather will be Neat Lac'ed to make it glossy and contrast with the suede insert. Should be pretty classy looking. Dave Theobald Quote
Contributing Member wolvenstien Posted February 2, 2008 Contributing Member Report Posted February 2, 2008 David, you have three rings of lacing..... the middle one confuses me terribly. that looks very much like an edge braid, not a seam braid... I know you cant take this seat apart to show me steps you took to construct it, but will you PLEASE take pix the next time you make a seat like this with the three braids and the middle LOOKS like it is an edge braid? Pix help me "see" what you are doing so much more than you trying to explain it with words, but words and pix are even better.... Great looking seat.... very "classy" looking. Quote "The miracle is not how two adults can create a child, the phenomenon is how quickly a child can create two adults." -- VYBE Her: Hit Me Him: Do you want me to use the knife? Her: No, When you hit with a knife, that's STABBING!
David Posted February 2, 2008 Author Report Posted February 2, 2008 David, you have three rings of lacing..... the middle one confuses me terribly. that looks very much like an edge braid, not a seam braid... I know you cant take this seat apart to show me steps you took to construct it, but will you PLEASE take pix the next time you make a seat like this with the three braids and the middle LOOKS like it is an edge braid? Pix help me "see" what you are doing so much more than you trying to explain it with words, but words and pix are even better....Great looking seat.... very "classy" looking. Hey Wolf, The inner lacing is a flat lacing pattern to hold down the exposed edge of the suede split. It is narrow black 1/8" lace from Tandy. The next one also black is 1/8" lacing from Tandy in a single loop pattern is purely decorative. The natural color lace is 1/4" kangaroo from Jim Downey...this is a structural lacing pattern in Mexican Basketweave or Round Braid. It actually holds the seat together. Hope that helps. Dave Theobald Quote
Contributing Member wolvenstien Posted February 2, 2008 Contributing Member Report Posted February 2, 2008 ok, what we have is A: Lace going through the suede on one side (on the inner) and going through the top most veg tan, the suede (?) and then the bottom vegtan. B: This is just a piece of vegtan that is used as a decorative piece and is more or less just a flap, if you wanted you could put your finger under and run it around all the way around the entire seat? Under this vegtan is the continuation of the suede? C: Is the edge lacing of the vegtan flap and the continuation of the suede? D: is the basketweave that holds the top to the bottom... Is this correct? If you do continue the suede from A to C why? Why not stop it it A? It is hard for MY mind to go any farther that what I see in a two dimensional picture. One reason it is hard for me to learn from anything but hands on.... second reason being I have such a hard time communicating my thoughts so others can understand them enough to give me the direction I am seeking. Quote "The miracle is not how two adults can create a child, the phenomenon is how quickly a child can create two adults." -- VYBE Her: Hit Me Him: Do you want me to use the knife? Her: No, When you hit with a knife, that's STABBING!
David Posted February 2, 2008 Author Report Posted February 2, 2008 (edited) ok, what we have is A: Lace going through the suede on one side (on the inner) and going through the top most veg tan, the suede (?) and then the bottom vegtan. B: This is just a piece of vegtan that is used as a decorative piece and is more or less just a flap, if you wanted you could put your finger under and run it around all the way around the entire seat? Under this vegtan is the continuation of the suede? C: Is the edge lacing of the vegtan flap and the continuation of the suede? D: is the basketweave that holds the top to the bottom... Is this correct? If you do continue the suede from A to C why? Why not stop it it A? It is hard for MY mind to go any farther that what I see in a two dimensional picture. One reason it is hard for me to learn from anything but hands on.... second reason being I have such a hard time communicating my thoughts so others can understand them enough to give me the direction I am seeking. Ok Wolfie I see where you are getting confused....There are three pieces to this seat.....The suede applique, the seat top and the seat back. The suede is an applique....it is glued to a recessed area (beaten down with a beveler and matting tool) on the seat top B. Lacing A just holds the suede to the seat top B. Lacing C is also on the seat top B. It is just decoration. Lacing D fastens the seat top B to the seat back which you can't see in this picture. Here is a seat back with the same kind of decorative lacing C. Sorry I didn't take pics of this. It is done the same way on all my seats with decorative lacing. Hope this helps. Dave Edited February 2, 2008 by David Quote
Grunt Posted February 2, 2008 Report Posted February 2, 2008 This "in progress" seat will be a different. There is no tooling on the front. The black suede split will be surrounded by black leather....All black veggie leather will be Neat Lac'ed to make it glossy and contrast with the suede insert. Should be pretty classy looking.Dave Theobald Dave, That seat is already classy looking! Very nice indeed Please post more pix when it is complete. Regards, Nick Quote
Contributing Member wolvenstien Posted February 2, 2008 Contributing Member Report Posted February 2, 2008 So there are two sets of holes at C but because the way you laid the lacing, you cannot see the second set, and it looks like it is an edge braid, tho it is only a top braid. I see and understand now. Thank you David for the explanation. Quote "The miracle is not how two adults can create a child, the phenomenon is how quickly a child can create two adults." -- VYBE Her: Hit Me Him: Do you want me to use the knife? Her: No, When you hit with a knife, that's STABBING!
David Posted February 3, 2008 Author Report Posted February 3, 2008 (edited) Here is the finished product on the Black/Black seat for Donny Loos. It should make for a pretty classy looking ride. Dave Theobald Edited February 3, 2008 by David Quote
Kevin King Posted February 3, 2008 Report Posted February 3, 2008 Slick. That is very slick. I am always in awe of your lacing. Thanks for showing it off. KK Quote The second kick from a jackass is of no educational value. Official Freak Fan Club President FACEBOOK kevinkingleather.com
steveb Posted February 3, 2008 Report Posted February 3, 2008 Here is the finished product on the Black/Black seat for Donny Loos.It should make for a pretty classy looking ride. Dave Theobald that is really a nicely done seat David - deceptively simple looking - looks tight, really nice technical lacing i was surprised though that you dye after assembly... ...could you have put a gel pad in the seat center and made the appliqués area semi-functional? Quote
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