Evo160K Posted January 18, 2019 Report Posted January 18, 2019 What would be involved in using a Singer 45K25 (bottom feed) occasionally for darning? I'm thinking it would need at least a needle plate with just a needle hole, the feed dog removed, stitch length set to zero, the roller foot removed, a rebound spring added on the presser bar like the one shown by the arrow in the picture (it's the Singer 45K76 darning machine in the video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S1MCZ138rAQ ). Surely there's more to it. Thank you, thank you very much. Quote
Members Constabulary Posted January 18, 2019 Members Report Posted January 18, 2019 (edited) There is a tappet or roller on the cam that drives the needle bar and thread lever. This tappet / roller controls the up an down movement of the presser foot. Note the piece that is attached to the presser foot bar and to the "plunger" that goes up in and down in the large hole on top of the machine. I think I can shoot a picture of my 34K machine as it has the similar system ... give me a few minutes... Edited January 18, 2019 by Constabulary Quote ~ Keep "OLD CAST IRON" alive - it´s worth it ~ Machines in use: - Singer 111G156 - Singer 307G2 - Singer 29K71 - Singer 212G141 - Singer 45D91 - Singer 132K6 - Singer 108W20 - Singer 51WSV2 - Singer 143W2
Members Constabulary Posted January 18, 2019 Members Report Posted January 18, 2019 (edited) Hope you know what I mean Some Adler 4 / 5 / 104 / 105 and I´m sure some Singer 45K also have a roller on the cam for controlling the jump foot system on certain machines Edited January 18, 2019 by Constabulary Quote ~ Keep "OLD CAST IRON" alive - it´s worth it ~ Machines in use: - Singer 111G156 - Singer 307G2 - Singer 29K71 - Singer 212G141 - Singer 45D91 - Singer 132K6 - Singer 108W20 - Singer 51WSV2 - Singer 143W2
Evo160K Posted January 19, 2019 Author Report Posted January 19, 2019 Folker, thanks for the information and your pictures, they explain the issue well. With the K25 subclass, I don't see a practical way to make it darn; the head casting doesn't have a hole for the plunger. Do you see any other way to darn with the K25 or the 45K53 which has individually controllable over and under feeds, the top feed is a jump foot? Here are a couple of the K53, the foot is off in the first picture (disregard the arrows): Quote
Members Constabulary Posted January 19, 2019 Members Report Posted January 19, 2019 No idea - I´m sorry! Quote ~ Keep "OLD CAST IRON" alive - it´s worth it ~ Machines in use: - Singer 111G156 - Singer 307G2 - Singer 29K71 - Singer 212G141 - Singer 45D91 - Singer 132K6 - Singer 108W20 - Singer 51WSV2 - Singer 143W2
Members shoepatcher Posted January 22, 2019 Members Report Posted January 22, 2019 Al, Darning means that the stitch does not feed. The needle only goes up and down and the top foot holds the items you are sewing down. Feeding is done by moving the item you are sewing. There is no feed dog. What happens if you remove the feed dog, set stitch length to zero. Now you must have a plate with only a needle hole in in and no slots for the feed dog. If you do this, machine should technically just go up and down. Correct? glenn Quote
Evo160K Posted January 22, 2019 Author Report Posted January 22, 2019 Hi Glenn, Thanks for your reply. I was thinking like you, even mentioned it in the op, but when I tried it, I couldn't move the fabric, seems like the presser foot was always down, and large knots developed on the underside. The foot needs a lifting mechanism, which is what Constabularly was saying above. Quote
Members shoepatcher Posted January 23, 2019 Members Report Posted January 23, 2019 Yeah, it is strictly a bottom feed machine and if you remove the feed dog. As Folker says, it needs something like a jump foot attachment you see on patchers. Quote
Evo160K Posted January 26, 2019 Author Report Posted January 26, 2019 What are the chances of the attachment in the video or something else working for darning? It looks pretty slick. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W_UqIpYuRg Here's my machine: Quote
Members Constabulary Posted January 26, 2019 Members Report Posted January 26, 2019 (edited) I haven´t darned anything yet I´m using ZZ for repairs. However, I think I will try my 34K for darning. I think for darning you need the momentum in that the presser foot is holding down the material or you have to put the material in a embroidery / darning frame (or what ever it is called). BTW - there was a darning attachment for Singer 29K and Adler 30 patcher machines - not sure if there ever has been one for CLAES patchers. AFAIK WIZ has one Edited January 26, 2019 by Constabulary Quote ~ Keep "OLD CAST IRON" alive - it´s worth it ~ Machines in use: - Singer 111G156 - Singer 307G2 - Singer 29K71 - Singer 212G141 - Singer 45D91 - Singer 132K6 - Singer 108W20 - Singer 51WSV2 - Singer 143W2
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