Quality wallet fabricator wanted in UK

[mistergeppetto]

Hi

I own a small UK brand, and I'm looking for someone to produce wallets and cardholders in England.

The wallets etc are to be machine stitched, used a heavyweight thread (ticket 10), and must be produced to a high quality.

Press knives, leather and thread will be provided by ourselves.

If anyone has interest in this, and can help, please get in touch.

Many thanks

 

[Matt S]

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[Wizcrafts]

10 hours ago, mistergeppetto said:

Hi

The wallets etc are to be machine stitched, used a heavyweight thread (ticket 10)

 

Are you aware that Ticket 10 thread is the equivalent of #277 bonded nylon thread ( .586mm )? This requires a #200 needle, which pokes a big hole and requires a harness stitcher to handle that thread and needle combination. The minimum thickness needed to bury the lockstitch knots is at least 4.5 to 5 mm (11 - 12 ounces). Will your wallets, etc, be this thick? If less, the only way to use #277 (Ticket 10) thread would be #277 on the outside and #138 on the interior side. This would allow for about 3.2 mm minimum thickness. It would also be tricky to balance the knots to keep them in the same vertical position.

The reason why is because hand stitching is usually done with two needles doing a running saddle stitch, crisscrossing up and down through round holes, producing an equal appearance on both sides with thick thread, whereas a sewing machine has to over-lock two threads inside the layers to produce a lockstitch. The larger the thread, the larger the knots and bigger the holes must be.

[DJole]

Maybe this fellow who posted here back in December can be your new hire:
 

• Posted December 10, 2018

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I have 4 years experience

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I’m looking for job at somewhere speak English (US, Australia, Canada....)

My email: ducduyqn79@yahoo.com

You can search my Facebook by my phone number: +84903651030

My Instagram: tum_leather

 

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[mistergeppetto]

23 hours ago, Wizcrafts said:

Are you aware that Ticket 10 thread is the equivalent of #277 bonded nylon thread ( .586mm )? This requires a #200 needle, which pokes a big hole and requires a harness stitcher to handle that thread and needle combination. The minimum thickness needed to bury the lockstitch knots is at least 4.5 to 5 mm (11 - 12 ounces). Will your wallets, etc, be this thick? If less, the only way to use #277 (Ticket 10) thread would be #277 on the outside and #138 on the interior side. This would allow for about 3.2 mm minimum thickness. It would also be tricky to balance the knots to keep them in the same vertical position.

The reason why is because hand stitching is usually done with two needles doing a running saddle stitch, crisscrossing up and down through round holes, producing an equal appearance on both sides with thick thread, whereas a sewing machine has to over-lock two threads inside the layers to produce a lockstitch. The larger the thread, the larger the knots and bigger the holes must be.

Hi Wizcrafts,

Thanks for the advice, I really appreciate it, and to be honest, the way we're currently working is as you suggested in the second option. i.e thicker top thread and thinner bottom thread, but you're right, it can cause problems. The style of the wallets we offer are pretty rugged, and we wanted to use a heavier stitch tat would be as near to saddle stitch that machine stitching would allow. I did ponder investing in a Tippman Boss but they're not readily available this side of the pond, plus I wasn't totally sold on it as I know it's not for everyone. 

[mistergeppetto]

Thanks to everyone who's replied to this thread, but we have now made a decision to employs a machinist directly, as this seems the most practical route for us right now.