dikman Report post Posted November 13, 2019 Assuming I get my 441, what type of feet, plates and feed dogs will I need to sew leather (holsters and belts)? Keestar have a selection available so buying from them makes sense as at least I know they will fit the machine. I sort of have some idea but figured it's better to rely on other's experience. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wizcrafts Report post Posted November 13, 2019 I recommend the following item numbers: 1, 3, 5, 6, 8, 11, 12, 13,14 and 15. Some of these may ship with the machine as standard equipment, or not. You need to find out how the machine will be equipped, regarding the type of feed dog, throat plate and presser feet, as well as any edge guide. The worse case is that it ships with the "blanket" set installed and nothing else. These parts all have teeth. You should also try to establish the difference between their "narrow" and "flat" center foot. Some inside feet have a tang sticking down the center of the bottom of the inside foot, to create a groove line for the stitches to lay in (which doesn't work right on turns!). I ground mine off right away. Maybe their "flat" center foot is like that from the get-go. I have almost every part they have listed, minus the "flat" throat plate. Additionally, my machine has a drop down edge guide that can be flipped up out of the way in a heartbeat. It can also be adjusted to sit above the plane of the throat plate to allow protruding bottom layers (linings) to pass under the roller. I don't see that option on their accessories page. That guide needs to be mounted by drilling and tapping holes in the back of the head. Cowboy dealers do that before shipping their machines, if it is so ordered with the machine. You are going to need a really good adjustable speed, 550 Watts or more servo motor, with a 50mm pulley, and a 3:1 speed reducer to operate this machine at very slow speeds into multi-layer holsters. The motor alone probably won't penetrate hard veg-tan at slow motor speeds. Avoid brushless motors that start up at 100, 200, or more rpm. You need a motor that gradually spins up from zero rpm. The reducer adds the torque. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shoepatcher Report post Posted November 13, 2019 What is missing is the flat plate that Beiler's Produces that you can use the feed dog with. Plate #5 in the pics does not look very flat. glenn Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dikman Report post Posted November 13, 2019 Wiz, the motor's not a problem. This will be replacing the Pfaff 335 on its table, already fitted with a servo and I have several speed reducers that I can fit (I've had a little experience at slowing down machines ). As for the edge guide, I'll probably make one to suit, I've already made one or two different types for my other machines. I'll ask them what it comes fitted with (I'm guessing the blanket foot). Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dikman Report post Posted November 14, 2019 Ok, it comes standard with the blanket feet, 3 bobbins and a couple of needles. I priced 1,3,6,8,12,13. The dearest was 3 at $24, the rest were between $14 - $18 (US$) which seems pretty reasonable to me. For a couple of hundred AU$ I can get a nice assortment of extras. Now I'm just waiting on the shipping quote and as long as it's not stupid I'll be in business. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wizcrafts Report post Posted November 14, 2019 Hopefully, all of the accessory plates and feet will fit properly. Good luck! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dikman Report post Posted November 14, 2019 Yeah, there is that! I figure buying them from the people selling the machine gives me a reasonable chance that they will actually fit. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
