Members TaylorM Posted February 5, 2020 Members Report Posted February 5, 2020 (edited) Warning: I am very new to all of this and am at a beginners level but have and am doing lots of research and starting to understand. I have so many thoughts. I’ve narrowed it down to this class though and I realize these are in the same this class and so if you can speak on the cowboy or juki too, that would be great. I am inclined to go with the TechSew due to many recommendations and most of the people I see having it. But I was given a better deal on the Cobra Class 26. I was given the deal probably for a reason (not selling like the TechSew does)... while the TechSew is out of stock. is it worth saving a couple hundred bucks on the cobra? The TechSew doesn’t come with a speed reducer. Do I need it? The cobra does come with the speed reducer... I also really like the TechSew NPS system and laser guide. Does the Cobra come with an NPS system? Is there a reason to have one over the other? If so let me know! Edited February 5, 2020 by TaylorM Quote
Rodzhobyz Posted February 5, 2020 Report Posted February 5, 2020 (edited) Several models of most brand machines will have the eps, laser systems offered on the machines, usually for a more premium price. You can review the specs of each model your interested in and decide if it's worth the upcharge. As far as the speed reducer, and especially if this is your 1st industrial machine, it offers a couple advantages, obviously you will have better control also the gear reduction improves the penetrating torque 3 fold. As far as clones go, I'm a Cowboy fan because that's what I purchased and Bob at Toledo Industrial is well known for customer service, otherwise I expect probably not a tremendous amount of performance differential between the name brands. BTW, The vendors at the top of this page are top notch and can assist you and help guide you towards a machine to match any needs you may have. Cheers Edited February 5, 2020 by Rodzhobyz Misspelling Quote
Moderator Wizcrafts Posted February 5, 2020 Moderator Report Posted February 5, 2020 Machines with position sensors seem to have problems when reducers are between the motor and machine. Since the positioners can start and stop on a dime, you probably won't need a reducer if you learn to feather the foot pedal. Reducers always run at least 50% slower than direct to motor machines. Some run at 1/3rd the motor speed. These are easy to start and stop without too much of a learning curve. Quote Posted IMHO, by Wiz My current crop of sewing machines: Cowboy CB4500, Singer 107w3, Singer 139w109, Singer 168G101, Singer 29k71, Singer 31-15, Singer 111w103, Singer 211G156, Adler 30-7 on power stand, Techsew 2700, Fortuna power skiver and a Pfaff 4 thread 2 needle serger.
kgg Posted February 5, 2020 Report Posted February 5, 2020 (edited) You haven't said what you are planning on making mostly, thickness, thread size. Without knowing what you want to make it is hard to say what machine would be best, suiting your needs. It maybe that a flatbed would be better suited to your sewing needs. kgg Edited February 5, 2020 by kgg correct sentence Quote Juki DNU - 1541S, Juki DU - 1181N, Singer 29K - 71(1949), Chinese Patcher (Tinkers Delight), Warlock TSC-441, Techsew 2750 Pro, Consew DCS-S4 Skiver
Members TaylorM Posted February 5, 2020 Author Members Report Posted February 5, 2020 (edited) 8 minutes ago, kgg said: You haven't said what you are planning on making mostly, thickness, thread size. Without knowing what you want to make it is hard to say what machine would be best suits your needs, it may be a flatbed would be better suited to the task. kgg To my understanding, this class of machines all suit the same type of work and support same thread sizes, etc. which is why I’m set on this class. They just have a few small differences here and there? Correct me if I’m wrong. Anyways, I am doing wallets and such. Hopefully on to bags in the near future. Nothing much bigger! Edited February 5, 2020 by TaylorM Quote
Members dfrensdorff Posted February 5, 2020 Members Report Posted February 5, 2020 I have the Techsew 5100, with the position sensor and the laser .... I love the position sensor ..... rarely use the laser. Quote
Members TaylorM Posted February 5, 2020 Author Members Report Posted February 5, 2020 9 minutes ago, dfrensdorff said: I have the Techsew 5100, with the position sensor and the laser .... I love the position sensor ..... rarely use the laser. Great to know. Do you have a speed reducer? Quote
Rodzhobyz Posted February 5, 2020 Report Posted February 5, 2020 My 4500 doesn't have the eps, but with the servo motor, speed reducer, I can easily stop the needle at any position, sew at an absolute crawl and speed up to any comfortable pace, but at full speed the machine will run faster than I care to sew anything. I'd say take the materials you normally work with and just experiment with each machine your interested in and buy what suits you best. Quote
Members dfrensdorff Posted February 5, 2020 Members Report Posted February 5, 2020 5 minutes ago, TaylorM said: Great to know. Do you have a speed reducer? Yes I do .... Quote
Members TaylorM Posted February 5, 2020 Author Members Report Posted February 5, 2020 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Rodzhobyz said: I'd say take the materials you normally work with and just experiment with each machine your interested in and buy what suits you best. Sadly, I do not have the ability to test out the machines. So this and the internet are my only outlets haha. Edited February 5, 2020 by TaylorM Quote
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