Guidance Needed replicating compendium

[Leathermann00b]

On 5/12/2020 at 9:20 AM, RockyAussie said:

If your around the Brisbane area I would check out this link https://www.theleathershed.com.au/

Tell Trevor and Tracey Brian sent you and expects a big discount on his next order

Thanks, will do

On 5/12/2020 at 9:20 AM, RockyAussie said:

the cover will need stiffeners added into it

Can you elaborate? Do you mean adding something stiff in between the back and front cover? Perhaps instead i could achieve the same result by using a thicker veg tan? But perhaps that will make opening and closing a problem..?

 

On 5/12/2020 at 9:20 AM, RockyAussie said:

To get your length of leather measure, cut a strip about 20mm wide of the thickness you have and use it like a ruler going over the shut folder allowing for about 6+mm overhang on both sides for your stitching and trimming up

So basically add 26mm border space around the object i want to fit in the LHS pocket?

[Leathermann00b]

On 5/12/2020 at 4:02 AM, stelmackr said:

1. Send a picture of what you want to leather sales companies in AU.  Hear is a sampling of companies I found with google:

Great links, thanks.

On 5/12/2020 at 4:02 AM, stelmackr said:

Place the Ipad/Macbook on the leather you buy and place the second piece on top of the Ipad and judge where the sewing might make a good fit. 

Good suggestion, only trouble is i dont own a macbook personally. I could maybe cut some 15mm MDF to simulate one tho

[RockyAussie]

On 5/13/2020 at 5:27 PM, Leathermann00b said:

On 5/12/2020 at 9:20 AM, RockyAussie said:

the cover will need stiffeners added into it

Can you elaborate? Do you mean adding something stiff in between the back and front cover? Perhaps instead i could achieve the same result by using a thicker veg tan? But perhaps that will make opening and closing a problem..?

I have been giving this a bit more thought and as a newbie to this leather work stuff I think adding the binder clip will create a lot of headaches for you. Getting the tablet to clear the binder clips as you slide it in would entail putting a gusset section in place I believe. As well a binder clip normally has to have a solid stiffener behind it to spread the load. Rivets just through the leather will quickly tear it apart and wobble all over the place. Below I will attach a few pictures showing a prototype Filofax cover I made ages ago and you can see the construction of the type of stiffening that is required.

First pic is the finished prototype

Outer cover removed from inner section

Outer cover has thinner stiffener right across and note the extra thicker sections on either side. This helps to keep everything in place as it opens and closes.

Note also the foam attached to the outer cover inside.

Note in this pic showing the lining section, that the stiffener is one complete piece with cut out sections for improved folding when shutting and opening.

Now this design although good for a filofax that needs to be firm to be able to write inside of... it will not be so good for holding something like a tablet inside of it.

You would still need the stiffening in the centre but you may need to cut away some in the outer sections to allow a more flexible cover. The pics below show some of how I go about achieving this for phone purses and in this case shown a passport/document holder.

Ist and second pics shows the finished product

 

Here you can see the cut out section in the stiffener before the outside is attached.

Showing outside stiffener,foam and material to be attached together.

Here you see the cut out section before I fold the outer covers.

 

I hope that this is making some sense now.

Re the 20 mm strip of leather is a tape measure idea of sorts. When I need to get a distance around something like a tablet, phone or product lining I like to have the correct weight of leather for the job because the thicker the leather used in the job the longer the outer cover needs to be. Saves a lot of maths is all.

If you want to call/phone me just send us a pm and I will give you my number there.

 

 

[Leathermann00b]

On 5/14/2020 at 8:19 PM, RockyAussie said:

I hope that this is making some sense now.

Super helpful reply thank you.

Interestingly, the same seller who's design im looking to modify, has an offering with rings (in a layout i dont like), but doesnt seem to have gone to any effort to reinforce where the ring rivets join the leather.

Bad design?

Or is the thickness of the leather they're using able to hold up without re-inforcing the spine where the rivets penetrate?

Any guess how thick that leather is?

(if that's a real credit card, its 0.76mm thick. the outer cover looks to be at least 3x thicker,  2.5mm?)

Edited May 15, 2020 by Leathermann00b

[RockyAussie]

11 hours ago, Leathermann00b said:

Interestingly, the same seller who's design im looking to modify, has an offering with rings (in a layout i dont like), but doesnt seem to have gone to any effort to reinforce where the ring rivets join the leather.  I dont think This would hold up for much wear and tear if done as shown.

Bad design?ANY design can usually be improved upon and that is the beauty of being able to annalise other peoples work like this.

Or is the thickness of the leather they're using able to hold up without re-inforcing the spine where the rivets penetrate?NO! I would suggest that putting an extra strip right down the middle, top to bottom and just a little wider than the binder plate, would be a very good idea. This will also help the folder to shut in a more controlled way and assist in keeping the rings from impressioning down into the cover as much. Note that although this folder has had little to no use that the binder clips have already made marks down into the leather next to the ipad. I would give a little more gap between the sides and even consider putting a light flap or protector between where the binder clips and the ipad touch.

Any guess how thick that leather is?

(if that's a real credit card, its 0.76mm thick. the outer cover looks to be at least 3x thicker,  2.5mm?) I agree

I would like to see the ipad covered section to bit covering more than shown but this will also mean that the cover will have to open up back on itself some to enable taking the ipad in and out easily.

Regards Brian

 

[Retswerb]

I see the appeal of this design, but I would almost consider turning the iPad pocket around so that it faces outward, and then adding a closure of some sort to keep it from falling out. This would address the issue @RockyAussie alludes to regarding contact between the rings and the iPad. This would also allow you to stitch the ‘bottom’ of the pocket out a bit such that the iPad is never crushed against the rings like it could be with the design you’ve shown, if it slips toward the spine in use. Just a thought, plenty of ways to skin this cat.