Salty Report post Posted May 15, 2020 Hello, I recently bought a Landis 16 and I need some help on setting my machine up. Is there anyone in the Western US that has a Landis 16 that would let me come see their machine in action and give me some pointers. I'm quite mechanically inclined, I'm just a little intimidated, and don't want to screw this thing up. Thank you, Robert Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Uwe Report post Posted May 16, 2020 (edited) Apparently a guy named Eli Schlabach is THE authority on Landis 16 machines. Eli is also the source for manuals and Landis 16 parts, for a price. Hopefully the contact info below is still valid. Member @shoepatcher posted the info below in another topic related to Landis 16: >>>>> You can contact Landis Sales & Service in Arthur, IL. Ask fro Eli Schlabach. He rebuilds Landis 16 machines and has parts and needles. He should have the manual and parts list. Their telephone number is 217-543-3464. Hope that helps. <<<<< Edited May 16, 2020 by Uwe Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Salty Report post Posted May 25, 2020 Uwe, Thanks for the info, I do have it. This machine was sent back to them back in 2004 and came back with a good bill of health. But it sat unused since 2008. It was well taken cared of and was oiled well. I do have the original manual, a reprinted manual and some detailed instructions from Eli. Following the manual and the instructions I checked the awl and needle set up and operation, and every thing looked good. So I moved onto stitching...……..this is were I ran into problems. I will list what is going on and what I have found, and then add photos. 1. As I start to stich things looked good, but the back side was all flagged out, and not tightening up. 2. Then as the needle came down it would only catch a potion of the thread wading it up. a. This caused some of either the bobbin thread or the upper thread to catch in the shuttle gear bringing every thing to a halt! 3. To get the shuttle gear unfouled I had to take the shuttle case off. I took grate care to make sure of the location for proper reassembly. 4. After un-fouling the shuttle gear and reassembling the shuttle case and with the bar covers off I noticed the needle was slightly striking the inside of the loop tacker on the inside. a. I figured I had assembled the shuttle disc and loop taker with the wrong timing. I spent a lot of time checking this in different orientations ending up back in my original position, with the needle slightly striking the inside of the loop taker. 5. I changed the needle, making sure every thing was clean. This didn't change the needle striking the loop taker. So either the shuttle gear is out of timing, or the needle bar is not right. I will try and contact Eli, but with work, and different time zones I haven't made contact as yet. If there is any one who is knowledgeable with the Landis 16, please chime in, thanks. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wizcrafts Report post Posted May 25, 2020 You can use Google to search Leatherworker.net for all discussions about a Landis 16. Or, use our own search box for Landis 16 (select "all words") Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Salty Report post Posted May 25, 2020 Here is the stitching. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Salty Report post Posted May 25, 2020 (edited) Wizcrafts, thanks. I spent a couple days reading through all Landis 16 threads, and countless hours search the web before starting this post. Edited May 25, 2020 by Salty Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shoepatcher Report post Posted May 26, 2020 Needle to me looks a little off line with awl in photo. Call Eli and talk to him. glenn Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Silverd Report post Posted May 26, 2020 Eli will not usually answer his phone but will call you back if you leave a message. He does not have access to email or internet so you will need to resolve the issues through conversation. Its not the best situation but Eli is a great guy and very knowledgeable through a wide spectrum of machines and especially the Landis 16. I purchased one myself a couple of years back with his help but I cant comment as to the exact problem you are experiencing. Silverd Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites