Looking at buying a machine but overwhelmed.

[Brigeyboo]

I'm very interested in buying my own machine and have been researching and reading threads but it's honestly all so overwhelming. 
I'm looking at sewing messenger bags mainly, possibly some purses and coats/garments as well. I think I've decided I want a walking foot, triple feed(terminology?), cylinder arm machine, I figure I can either buy or make an attachment for a flatbed if needed. Also I would prefer if the speed reducer were already included. I was pretty sold on the cb3200 but now I'm worried it will be too much for what I need.
Other machines I have pulled up; CB341, Cobra class 26

Sorry if I sound like an absolute idiot, please help! 

[DonInReno]

It sounds like you’ve almost answered the question - yes, the 3200 is larger than needed for most of what you’ve described.  While it can do those things in a pinch, it’s a lot like driving a big flatbed truck to the grocery store - it’s more work, not as nimble to drive in tight spots or curves, and just isn’t as enjoyable for most.  If you have a chance to sew with one for a few minutes it will make the difference quite clear.

Having said that, the 3200 would make a great second machine if you ever run into projects that a smaller machine struggles with.

[Brigeyboo]

18 hours ago, DonInReno said:

It sounds like you’ve almost answered the question - yes, the 3200 is larger than needed for most of what you’ve described.  While it can do those things in a pinch, it’s a lot like driving a big flatbed truck to the grocery store - it’s more work, not as nimble to drive in tight spots or curves, and just isn’t as enjoyable for most.  If you have a chance to sew with one for a few minutes it will make the difference quite clear.

Having said that, the 3200 would make a great second machine if you ever run into projects that a smaller machine struggles with.

Not really too keen on going places atm to test anything out, most places are still under quarantine here anyways :/ 
Anyways, I'm still not too sure what smaller machines are out there. 
Back to looking I guess.

[Brigeyboo]

Maybe the Cowboy CB227R?

[Brigeyboo]

Ok, I think I've narrowed it down to the techsew 2700(Strong contender), the Cowboy CB227r, and to be honest the cb3200 is still in the running because why not? It's in the same price range, but still heavy duty if I decide to get wild. 
Thoughts and opinions are welcome.

[Wizcrafts]

8 hours ago, Brigeyboo said:

Ok, I think I've narrowed it down to the techsew 2700(Strong contender), the Cowboy CB227r, and to be honest the cb3200 is still in the running because why not? It's in the same price range, but still heavy duty if I decide to get wild. 
Thoughts and opinions are welcome.

I have a Techsew 2700. It is a light duty walking foot machine with a cylinder arm. It is very efficient with small to medium thread sizes, from 46 through 138. Because I have other heavy duty machines, I only use #46, 69 and 92 in my 2700. This prolongs its life and the bobbins go much farther than with heavier thread.

The Cowboy 227R and Techsew 2700 are similar machines, clones of the Singer 153. If you are choosing between those machines, find out how much the shipping will cost to your door. The rates are lower if shipped to a loading dock than to a building requiring a truck with a lift gate.

I was going to link to the Techsew 2700 page, but it no longer exists. You may have to move up to a newer and more expensive model, like the Techsew 2750. The website has a bold top banner mentioning a 2 to 3 week delay in shipping due to Covid-19 issues. I don't know if this is still the case.

[Brigeyboo]

10 hours ago, Wizcrafts said:

I have a Techsew 2700. It is a light duty walking foot machine with a cylinder arm. It is very efficient with small to medium thread sizes, from 46 through 138. Because I have other heavy duty machines, I only use #46, 69 and 92 in my 2700. This prolongs its life and the bobbins go much farther than with heavier thread.

The Cowboy 227R and Techsew 2700 are similar machines, clones of the Singer 153. If you are choosing between those machines, find out how much the shipping will cost to your door. The rates are lower if shipped to a loading dock than to a building requiring a truck with a lift gate.

I was going to link to the Techsew 2700 page, but it no longer exists. You may have to move up to a newer and more expensive model, like the Techsew 2750. The website has a bold top banner mentioning a 2 to 3 week delay in shipping due to Covid-19 issues. I don't know if this is still the case.

Thank you!
I was actually just gifted an adler 30-1 it needs some parts so hopefully I can figure that out.
I know nothing about the machine but the guy who gave it to me says it's a solid piece if I can fix it!

But upon a wee bit of googling I'm seeing that the parts are super expensive so that may be a bust haha

 

[Wizcrafts]

1 hour ago, Brigeyboo said:

Thank you!
I was actually just gifted an adler 30-1 it needs some parts so hopefully I can figure that out.
I know nothing about the machine but the guy who gave it to me says it's a solid piece if I can fix it!

But upon a wee bit of googling I'm seeing that the parts are super expensive so that may be a bust haha

 

The Adler 30 series are shoe patchers. They are top feed only, via teeth on the jumping foot. The bobbins in this particular machine are tiny. It is best limited to #69 bonded nylon thread. If you don't repair shoes and boots, you can use it to sew embroidered patches over pockets and sleeves on biker's vests and jackets. They get into narrow spaces, like the sides of purses where the strap connecting tabs tend to let go. Once you get it sewing it can make you quick cash doing repairs for people.

This machine will not substitute for a compound feed walking foot machine with normal or oversize bobbins.

[Brigeyboo]

 

9 minutes ago, Wizcrafts said:

The Adler 30 series are shoe patchers. They are top feed only, via teeth on the jumping foot. The bobbins in this particular machine are tiny. It is best limited to #69 bonded nylon thread. If you don't repair shoes and boots, you can use it to sew embroidered patches over pockets and sleeves on biker's vests and jackets. They get into narrow spaces, like the sides of purses where the strap connecting tabs tend to let go. Once you get it sewing it can make you quick cash doing repairs for people.

This machine will not substitute for a compound feed walking foot machine with normal or oversize bobbins.

Good to know, thank you! I may just give it back to him since it doesn't really feel like it will fit my needs. I already own a hand cranked shoe cobbler machine (That I'm not a fan of) so I doubt I need to drop a lot of money on the Adler if I don't have to. The two pieces I know I need were over 200$ and there's no telling how many others I'd need.

Edited June 30, 2020 by Brigeyboo
Double posted

[Wizcrafts]

1 hour ago, Brigeyboo said:

The two pieces I know I need were over 200$ and there's no telling how many others I'd need.

When I got my Adler 30-7 it too needed some replacement parts. They added up to about $250. Additionally, the needles are extra long and not very plentiful. Thus, what is available is expensive. If you were in business with a walk-in customer base, the Adler would be worth fixing for on-the-spot repairs.