Binding with my Adler 69 72E

[toxo]

Don't intend to do masses of it but what do I need guys. I've tried looking but it's confusing. Thanks.

[Uwe]

This topic covers most of it:

Kwok Hing in Hong Kong is one manufacturer who still makes all the parts you need for binding on an Adler 69. You can order directly from them at http://khsew.com  (create an account to see pricing)

College Sewing in the UK may also offer these parts, for easy local ordering. 

Here’s the parts list as of October 2020:

 

 

Edited October 14, 2020 by Uwe

[toxo]

Thanks Uwe. I had seen that thread but me being a cheapskate was thinking you can't need all that surely. It's far too expensive. Especially with most of the 69s having the sideways feed dog anyway.

To be clear, mine is the 69-72E42. Do we know what the difference is between mine and say the 373? I'd love to know.

So this is the standard one yes? And does the actual tape turny thing screw into those holes at the front?

[Uwe]

If you think $111 is far too expensive for that set of parts listed above, then you’re in the wrong hobby or you haven’t been paying attention. There’s a fine line between being frugal and being high maintenance.

You can always experiment and make your own solutions. Just buy a tape folder thingy and install it on your machine, perhaps with a little custom bracket to bring it into the right position. Post a topic here when it works.

Binding is an art and science, frustrating to many who attempt it. Many people experienced with binding will simply say “take my money!” when they’re presented with a solution that actually works. Then they don’t touch the binding setup after it works properly - they simply buy a second machine for whatever else they might want to sew.

The “72” in your model number is the subclass and usually relates to the details of the feed mechanism your machine has. The ‘E42” is likely the gauge set (throat plate, feed dog, feet) that was installed at the factory. There are dozens of gauge set configurations possible, E42 is just one of them. Odds are,  it no longer is the configuration you currently have installed on your machine, so the E42 may be meaningless.

 

[toxo]

5 minutes ago, Uwe said:

If you think $111 is far too expensive for that set of parts listed above, then you’re in the wrong hobby or you haven’t been paying attention. There’s a fine line between being frugal and being high maintenance.

You can always experiment and make your own solutions. Just buy a tape folder thingy and install it on your machine, perhaps with a little custom bracket to bring it into the right position. Post a topic here when it works.

Binding is an art and science, frustrating to many who attempt it. Many people experienced with binding will simply say “take my money!” when they’re presented with a solution that actually works. Then they don’t touch the binding setup after it works properly - they simply buy a second machine for whatever else they might want to sew.

The “72” in your model number is the subclass and usually relates to the details of the feed mechanism your machine has. The ‘E42” is likely the gauge set (throat plate, feed dog, feet) that was installed at the factory. There are dozens of gauge set configurations possible, E42 is just one of them. Odds are,  it no longer is the configuration you currently have installed on your machine, so the E42 may be meaningless.

 

That was after I'd almost pulled the trigger with College at £206. I ordered it last night with Ksew @ £106 delivered. Bear in mind this is a hobby for me albeit hopeful that I might get something back sometime.

Binding is an art and science, frustrating to many who attempt it. Many people experienced with binding will simply say “take my money!” when they’re presented with a solution that actually works. Then they don’t touch the binding setup after it works properly - they simply buy a second machine for whatever else they might want to sew.

Now you've proper frightened me. And I still have to buy the turny tape thing at the end and presumably a different one for each tape width?

[shoepatcher]

That machine does not have 4 motion drop feed  which would be a -372. It has what is called skiff feed- feed dog goes back and forth but does not drop down.  made for binding!!!

glenn

[toxo]

2 minutes ago, shoepatcher said:

That machine does not have 4 motion drop feed  which would be a -372. It has what is called skiff feed- feed dog goes back and forth but does not drop down.  made for binding!!!

glenn

I know Glenn but it doesn't make the bits any cheaper.

[shoepatcher]

My binders are all custom made.  They started at $350.00.  Where I worked before I retired, we set up a symmetric feed binding on a Pfaff 1295 post walking foot machine .  it was made for us by Atlanta Attachment

They make the best binders bar none.  However, you pay for it.  That set ending up costing  $1350.00.   Not cheap.  The throat plate, feed dog, binder holder, all custom made.  And that did not include the 2" clean finish  top and bottom binder with a 3/8" fold over which cost another $400.00!!!   Trust me, $111.00 is cheap!!!  you get what you pay for.

glenn

[toxo]

1 minute ago, shoepatcher said:

My binders are all custom made.  They started at $350.00.  Where I worked before I retired, we set up a symmetric feed binding on a Pfaff 1295 post walking foot machine .  it was made for us by Atlanta Attachment

They make the best binders bar none.  However, you pay for it.  That set ending up costing  $1350.00.   Not cheap.  The throat plate, feed dog, binder holder, all custom made.  And that did not include the 2" clean finish  top and bottom binder with a 3/8" fold over which cost another $400.00!!!   Trust me, $111.00 is cheap!!!  you get what you pay for.

glenn

I agree completely but lets not forget that it's a business expenditure where it will eventually pay for itself over and over.

In my case it'll be an enjoyable experiment to see what I can do with it. I honestly don't have an immediate job for it and don't even know yet what size  tape thingy to buy or single fold or double fold. Don't have a clue but I'll enjoy finding out.

[shoepatcher]

let me know if I can help in the future.

glenn