budget cylinder arm machine

[aru]

Hello, ive been messing about with my singer 211w155, and i'm wanting to upgrade to a cylinder arm machine, for shoes and other projects. All I really want is a medium strength machine. Ive found a singer 153w103 for $800/ a consew 227 for $800/ singer 153k103 for $800/ ADLER 5/16 2N POSTBED NEEDLE FEED BIG BOBBIN for 1300, however most work I would do, would be single needle. There is a landis 3 near me, for $1250. also a singer #W719788 for $500

Are any of these machines decent and at a decent price? I can hardly find anything about the consew 227, the singer 153w103 had a thread about it, from 12 years ago, saying it was a $400 machine. I cant seem to find anything locally, so ebay is my only real source atm. Located in missouri if anyone has something similar...

Is there any reason other than price, to go with a cylinder arm over a post bed?

The main thing im worried about is buying a machine that i cant find any information on, and it not work for what im doing...or to pay $1000 for a $300 machine.

Edited November 16, 2020 by aru

[chrisash]

with old machines you also have to consider spares availability, something sometimes overlooked when you see a bargain 

 

[aru]

are machine shops usually able to make the odd part you might break? The guy with the singer post bed machine said it works and I could come look at it. From some searching all the records of those machines were lost, does that mean parts and manuals are going to be impossible as well?

[Constabulary]

From your list and without knowing details of either machine I would most likely choose the Consew 227.

Is 227 all you know or is it possibly a 227R?

The Singer in your picture is a 51w as it seems but cannot ID the subclass. The roller foot is good for sewing shoe uppers. Machine has a rather short stitch length but that may depend on the subclass.

Here is a 51w manual that is close but not the same subclass I´d say, but maybe it helps:

 

 

51W44.pdf - Verknüpfung.lnk

Edited November 16, 2020 by Constabulary

[aru]

1 hour ago, Constabulary said:

From your list and without knowing details of either machine I would most likely choose the Consew 227.

Is 227 all you know or is it possibly a 227R?

The Singer in your picture is a 51w as it seems but cannot ID the subclass. The roller foot is good for sewing shoe uppers. Machine has a rather short stitch length but that may depend on the subclass.

Here is a 51w manual that is close but not the same subclass I´d say, but maybe it helps:

 

 

51W44.pdf - Verknüpfung.lnk 13.45 kB · 1 download

Thanks! shoes are actually the main reason I want a cylinder arm/post bed machine. The consew is just 227, the 227r is about 1500 from the look of it.