SINGER 153W 102 ADJUSTMENT

[Wizcrafts]

7 hours ago, FRANKPKNY said:

What's your opinion on the needle size?   I found a chart and the 135x17 is definitely a much longer needle length to top of eye 38.9 verses a 135x7 being 33.9 I even tried shorting a needle to no avail.

  

The Singer 153 series uses the same needles and bobbins as the 111 series. They are the common walking foot System 135x16 and 135x17. The needle bar stroke depends on these lengthy needles to complete its downstroke without hitting the presser and vibrating foot. Substituting and lowering the needle bar height for a shorter needle system will cause the bottom of the needle bar to hit the feet when sewing at maximum thickness, or when the feet are lifted to remove the work and release the top thread tension. Use the correct needle system and time the hook as per the specs. If the needle's eye is too high at pickoff time, loosen and lower the needle bar to retime it.

[FRANKPKNY]

I realize this however the book Singer for the 153W 102 says use a 135x7 needle which is shorter when i set up the shorter needle I still get the same problem. The thread spring adjustment doesn't seem to make any difference where I set it ! I have tried more tension up and down with the stroke as well. The bobbin case is slightly high but its not adjustable, is it possible to have the bobbin case inserted 180 Degrees off?  the thread pull happens at the very top of the take up lever stroke which I believe to be correct. it seems that the needle when down leaves far to much thread st the loop than what is needed?

Edited December 21, 2020 by FRANKPKNY

[FRANKPKNY]

I can use the needle thread combination on my Singer Patcher and it works fine? 

[ljk]

I have been down that road on a 155w.  Follow the advice of the experts, make sure it is timed "right"

Now drentch hook with oil and put in #69 thread.  If it sews correctly than do the following.  Remove

hook "not carrier" those tiny jib screws have wings, check if there is any debris, inspect hook for any

burrs make sure everything is smooth! Now remove tension spring and make sure thread path is

clean and tension spring works properly.  I use super glue on jib screws/screw driver to assemble.

If that machine -doesn't work let me know I have another idea (crazy)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Wizcrafts]

5 hours ago, FRANKPKNY said:

it seems that the needle when down leaves far to much thread st the loop than what is needed?

Cut out the excess slack via the check spring adjustments. The first adjustment is to set the lower travel via the movable curved bracket under the check assembly. The further down the spring moves, the lower the slack. Fine tune the action with the position of the curved slot by loosening the small set screw in the curved slot. Moving the disks clockwise tightens the thread. Moving them counterclockwise loosens the thread.

[FRANKPKNY]

Success at last,  I readjusted  everything  found play in the feed dog, corrected that and installed a new one as well as the complete tensioner , which was well worn and grooved. 

The hook timing was a major issue, as I was not setting the needle properly, on watched the video  on the Consew  225 and saw the error on my part.  I was not setting the timing properly.   the four center lines on the left photo is what I now have, the four center ones two front two back  side.   The photo on the bottom is what I started with. 

Edited December 22, 2020 by FRANKPKNY

[FRANKPKNY]

I would like to thank all for the help!     I can't sell any machine till I know it works properly.  What would be a fair price for the Machine and table l