MariMari Report post Posted January 21, 2021 I'm looking for needles to my green monster: KOCHS ADLER - Sattler Universal Class 23 needle system is 580 / 585A Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shoepatcher Report post Posted January 23, 2021 specs of the needle so we can find something close. glenn Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Uwe Report post Posted January 25, 2021 (edited) Like @Constabulary said in the an other topic, the needles are obsolete. Chances of finding some are very slim. Since you apparently don’t have any needles to take measurements off of, your best chance of sewing with your machine may be trying to use system 1000H needles, which are still being made by Schmetz. I doesn’t cost much to try. If you are lucky the shank diameter is the same, and you may just have to lower the needle bar enough (about 20mm) to time the machine. System 1000H needles are 73mm, and System 794 needles are 60mm butt-to-eye. Both have 2.5mm shank diameter. Here’s the previous topic with all the details: Edited January 25, 2021 by Uwe Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites