Members MarlinDave Posted February 12, 2021 Author Members Report Posted February 12, 2021 So a 135 x 16 is for leather and a 135 x17 is for fabric. And a DP point is for leather. Why is there a 135 x 17 with a DP point? Quote
Moderator Wizcrafts Posted February 12, 2021 Moderator Report Posted February 12, 2021 1 hour ago, 327fed said: Why is there a 135 x 17 with a DP point? Good question! I think someone mislabeled the package. I do see slightly different types of "round" point needles in different systems. They are all basically round or sharp from round points. I've never seen a tri or diamond point in 135x17; just 135x16. Who woulda thunk it? Quote Posted IMHO, by Wiz My current crop of sewing machines: Cowboy CB4500, Singer 107w3, Singer 139w109, Singer 168G101, Singer 29k71, Singer 31-15, Singer 111w103, Singer 211G156, Adler 30-7 on power stand, Techsew 2700, Fortuna power skiver and a Pfaff 4 thread 2 needle serger.
Members MarlinDave Posted February 13, 2021 Author Members Report Posted February 13, 2021 When we set this machine up somebody suggested using the size smaller thread on the bobbin which I have now. Is that needed or can I run 138 top and bottom.? Quote
Members Constabulary Posted February 13, 2021 Members Report Posted February 13, 2021 (edited) Usually you can run 138 in top and bottom but we do not know how your machine is set up. Just try it out. As you may have noticed in the above video UWE is even running 207 top and bottom. You usually use bottom thread 1 size smaller when the machine (for what ever reason) has problems centering the thread knots in the middle of the material you sew. Edited February 13, 2021 by Constabulary Quote ~ Keep "OLD CAST IRON" alive - it´s worth it ~ Machines in use: - Singer 111G156 - Singer 307G2 - Singer 29K71 - Singer 212G141 - Singer 45D91 - Singer 132K6 - Singer 108W20 - Singer 51WSV2 - Singer 143W2
Members MarlinDave Posted February 13, 2021 Author Members Report Posted February 13, 2021 Thanks everybody. Quote
Moderator Wizcrafts Posted February 13, 2021 Moderator Report Posted February 13, 2021 I have an old Singer 168 post machine with compound feed walking feet. It has a top loading hook. I had it adjusted for extra clearance between the hook and needle when I bought it and it will sew with #207 on top and in the bobbin, using a #24 needle! It also sews with #92 thread which is what I usually have in it. Admittedly, I have not tried using #69 thread and a small #18 needle. I have other machines for that, so why risk skipped stitches? While a top loading "G" bobbin machine may be able to sew with #207 thread, that bobbin won't hold as much of that size thread as a newer machine with a larger M or U hook (or a harness stitcher). I only use the post machine with thick thread in situations where no other machine can sew the work at hand. If anyone is curious about the modifications made to my post machine, ask Bob Kovar. Quote Posted IMHO, by Wiz My current crop of sewing machines: Cowboy CB4500, Singer 107w3, Singer 139w109, Singer 168G101, Singer 29k71, Singer 31-15, Singer 111w103, Singer 211G156, Adler 30-7 on power stand, Techsew 2700, Fortuna power skiver and a Pfaff 4 thread 2 needle serger.
Members MarlinDave Posted February 18, 2021 Author Members Report Posted February 18, 2021 (edited) I tried a bobbin of 138 and locked things up. Wrapped up feed dogs, lots of pulling out tangles. Back with 92 bobbin, tension is all off. And thread length doubled.And then I also thought -25 degree leather in my unseated shop is probably tougher to sew than 60 degree leather. Edited February 18, 2021 by 327fed Quote
Members MarlinDave Posted February 18, 2021 Author Members Report Posted February 18, 2021 Ate supper, went back and reset tensions and thread length. Close to where I started on settings. Oddly enough I hav both operators manual and service manual and neither shows thread path. Quote
Members Constabulary Posted February 18, 2021 Members Report Posted February 18, 2021 Quote ~ Keep "OLD CAST IRON" alive - it´s worth it ~ Machines in use: - Singer 111G156 - Singer 307G2 - Singer 29K71 - Singer 212G141 - Singer 45D91 - Singer 132K6 - Singer 108W20 - Singer 51WSV2 - Singer 143W2
Members MarlinDave Posted February 18, 2021 Author Members Report Posted February 18, 2021 Thanks. It is threaded wrong for sure. Quote
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