Members WoodCarverJoel Posted June 29, 2021 Members Report Posted June 29, 2021 I am new to leather work. I am still learning and gathering some tools. Got this on ebay the other day. Also picked up a stitching pony. I got the larger one coming. I loved how adjustable it is. Quote
Members WoodCarverJoel Posted June 29, 2021 Author Members Report Posted June 29, 2021 Also got a cheap cobbler sewing machine. Quote
Members PastorBob Posted June 29, 2021 Members Report Posted June 29, 2021 (edited) Have fun with the sewing machine. I could have sold you mine. I have had no luck with it AT ALL. Sometimes, you get what you pay for. In this case it's true. Saving for a real one now. Or may just keep hand stitching. Edited June 29, 2021 by PastorBob Quote
Members DJole Posted June 29, 2021 Members Report Posted June 29, 2021 (edited) On 6/29/2021 at 2:40 PM, WoodCarverJoel said: I am new to leather work. I am still learning and gathering some tools. Got this on ebay the other day. Also picked up a stitching pony. I got the larger one coming. I loved how adjustable it is. Expand A bunch of those metal tools on the left seem to be tools used for classic Western floral styles (veiners, camouflagers, etc.) Are you interested in learning that style of leather tooling? If so, you can find a LOT of expertise on this message board to help you learn those skills. There appears to be one three pronged Tandy "diamond" stitching chisel there. If you want to learn hand stitching, that's okay for learning and practicing, but it leaves BIG holes in leather, which might not be what you want in some projects. So you will likely be adding some other sort of pricking iron or stitching chisel set to your tool set. (If you want to learn the differences between those tools, and the variations between various manufacturers, YouTube will help you a lot.) Your swivel knife there will probably need sharpening and stropping. You may also find that it doesn't fit well in your hand, but this one is non-adjustable in height, like other models are. You may find you'll need another after trying this one out. What are those 4 tools on the far right? A couple seem to be only handles with no tools. A stitching pony is an excellent help for quality hand stitching. Edited June 29, 2021 by DJole Quote
Members WoodCarverJoel Posted June 29, 2021 Author Members Report Posted June 29, 2021 I have low expectations. I've seen few videos were people have made little improvements like polishing some of the part that contact each other helped. For the low cost I thought it would be worth a shot. Also picked up a stitching pony. Quote
Members DJole Posted June 29, 2021 Members Report Posted June 29, 2021 On 6/29/2021 at 2:42 PM, WoodCarverJoel said: Also got a cheap cobbler sewing machine. Expand There are LOTS of discussions about these Chinese cobbler machines on this forum, usually from people who bought one and then realize that they can't get it to work well, and ask for help. Quote
kgg Posted June 29, 2021 Report Posted June 29, 2021 (edited) On 6/29/2021 at 2:42 PM, WoodCarverJoel said: Also got a cheap cobbler sewing machine. Expand These are true tinkers paradise machines. Basic, rough as a gad, cheap, one arm bandit but can get the job done. There is a FB group dedicated to their use and modification which you may find helpful. The needle can be changed to a standard industrial needle system of 135 X 16 for leather or 135 X 17 for fabric really easily. Changing the needle system to either 135 X 16 or 17 will give you better quality options for both the needle and thread size selection. kgg Edited June 29, 2021 by kgg missing word Quote
Members WoodCarverJoel Posted June 29, 2021 Author Members Report Posted June 29, 2021 On 6/29/2021 at 6:38 PM, DJole said: A bunch of those metal tools on the left seem to be tools used for classic Western floral styles (veiners, camouflagers, etc.) Are you interested in learning that style of leather tooling? If so, you can find a LOT of expertise on this message board to help you learn those skills. There appears to be one three pronged Tandy "diamond" stitching chisel there. If you want to learn hand stitching, that's okay for learning and practicing, but it leaves BIG holes in leather, which might not be what you want in some projects. So you will likely be adding some other sort of pricking iron or stitching chisel set to your tool set. (If you want to learn the differences between those tools, and the variations between various manufacturers, YouTube will help you a lot.) Your swivel knife there will probably need sharpening and stropping. You may also find that it doesn't fit well in your hand, but this one is non-adjustable in height, like other models are. You may find you'll need another after trying this one out. What are those 4 tools on the far right? A couple seem to be only handles with no tools. Expand Thanks for the great input on the tools. I picked up this book to help learning about the different tools. I know I like to wood carve so some carving and pyrography I will looking at including in my work. Quote
Members WoodCarverJoel Posted June 29, 2021 Author Members Report Posted June 29, 2021 On 6/29/2021 at 6:41 PM, kgg said: These are true tinkers paradise machines. Basic, rough as a gad, cheap, one arm bandit but can get the job done. There is a FB group dedicated to their use and modification which you may find helpful. The needle can be changed to a standard industrial needle system of 135 X 16 for leather or 135 X 17 for fabric really easily. Changing the needle system to either 135 X 16 or 17 will give you better quality options for both the needle and thread size selection. kgg Expand Thanks, I think it's good to start with. Some day maybe a fancy machine. Quote
Members WoodCarverJoel Posted June 29, 2021 Author Members Report Posted June 29, 2021 On 6/29/2021 at 6:40 PM, DJole said: There are LOTS of discussions about these Chinese cobbler machines on this forum, usually from people who bought one and then realize that they can't get it to work well, and ask for help. Expand Low expectations, it will give something to tinker with for now. Thank you Quote
CFM chuck123wapati Posted June 29, 2021 CFM Report Posted June 29, 2021 On 6/29/2021 at 6:38 PM, DJole said: A bunch of those metal tools on the left seem to be tools used for classic Western floral styles (veiners, camouflagers, etc.) Are you interested in learning that style of leather tooling? If so, you can find a LOT of expertise on this message board to help you learn those skills. There appears to be one three pronged Tandy "diamond" stitching chisel there. If you want to learn hand stitching, that's okay for learning and practicing, but it leaves BIG holes in leather, which might not be what you want in some projects. So you will likely be adding some other sort of pricking iron or stitching chisel set to your tool set. (If you want to learn the differences between those tools, and the variations between various manufacturers, YouTube will help you a lot.) Your swivel knife there will probably need sharpening and stropping. You may also find that it doesn't fit well in your hand, but this one is non-adjustable in height, like other models are. You may find you'll need another after trying this one out. What are those 4 tools on the far right? A couple seem to be only handles with no tools. A stitching pony is an excellent help for quality hand stitching. Expand i think that three hole chisel may be a lacing chisel and not for stitching but for lacing need a better pic of it. Quote
Contributing Member fredk Posted June 29, 2021 Contributing Member Report Posted June 29, 2021 On 6/29/2021 at 7:24 PM, chuck123wapati said: i think that three hole chisel may be a lacing chisel and not for stitching but for lacing need a better pic of it. Expand You are correct, its for lacing. I have a set of these Quote
Members Klara Posted June 30, 2021 Members Report Posted June 30, 2021 The books by Al Stohlman are probably still the best there are, even though they are not very recent. I also very highly recommend the one on handsewing leather. And if you can find them cheaply (I wouldn't pay full price) the first two volumes on how to make leather cases. Not for the cases themselves (I'll never need a polaroid camera or gun shell case), but for the information on how to attach straps, strap keepers and D-rings (Vol. 1) and the different types of handles (Vol. 2). (Btw, in case any publishers read this: I'd really, really LOVE a book with just that type of information. Which type of handle/strap/closure/fastener to use when and how to attach them. Nifty ideas for closing leather cases, etc. That info comes in bits and pieces (Stohlman has more than most), often hidden in the project instructions, but I'd like it all in one place, one encyclopedia of ??? ) Quote
Members WoodCarverJoel Posted June 30, 2021 Author Members Report Posted June 30, 2021 On 6/30/2021 at 6:43 AM, Klara said: The books by Al Stohlman are probably still the best there are, even though they are not very recent. I also very highly recommend the one on handsewing leather. And if you can find them cheaply (I wouldn't pay full price) the first two volumes on how to make leather cases. Not for the cases themselves (I'll never need a polaroid camera or gun shell case), but for the information on how to attach straps, strap keepers and D-rings (Vol. 1) and the different types of handles (Vol. 2). (Btw, in case any publishers read this: I'd really, really LOVE a book with just that type of information. Which type of handle/strap/closure/fastener to use when and how to attach them. Nifty ideas for closing leather cases, etc. That info comes in bits and pieces (Stohlman has more than most), often hidden in the project instructions, but I'd like it all in one place, one encyclopedia of ??? ) Expand Thank you Klara I will look for the books. Quote
CFM chuck123wapati Posted June 30, 2021 CFM Report Posted June 30, 2021 On 6/30/2021 at 11:17 AM, WoodCarverJoel said: Thank you Klara I will look for the books. Expand a lot of the Stohlman books are free on the tandy website site Quote
Members Klara Posted July 1, 2021 Members Report Posted July 1, 2021 When did you last check? All the books I can find today are The Art of Embossing Leather and How to Colour Leather. https://tandyleather.com/blogs/leathercraft-library/tagged/ebooks And lots of Doodle Pages, which you'll get to when you click on the tiny "Filter by: All" in above link under the banner. Tandy are not so stupid as to give away their international bestsellers - I just bought the one on sharpening in my French leather shop. Quote
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