Members DanHolland Posted October 11, 2021 Members Report Posted October 11, 2021 Hi y'all, I'm new here and so excited to find there is activity here about this machine. I just bought one from a friend, it was rusting away in his old shed in Amsterdam. I haven't had the time to properly test it and to check whether everything is complete. I'll send an update + some photos later this week when I'm fooling around with it at the shop... Cheers! Dan ps: Wondering whether a 3d printed shuttle would work... Quote
Members silverkrown Posted October 14, 2021 Author Members Report Posted October 14, 2021 On 10/11/2021 at 2:30 PM, DanHolland said: Hi y'all, I'm new here and so excited to find there is activity here about this machine. I just bought one from a friend, it was rusting away in his old shed in Amsterdam. I haven't had the time to properly test it and to check whether everything is complete. I'll send an update + some photos later this week when I'm fooling around with it at the shop... Cheers! Dan ps: Wondering whether a 3d printed shuttle would work... Wow that’s great. I’ll be interested to see some pictures of it. Did yours come with the shuttle and bobbins? Quote
Moderator Wizcrafts Posted October 15, 2021 Moderator Report Posted October 15, 2021 On 10/11/2021 at 3:30 PM, DanHolland said: ps: Wondering whether a 3d printed shuttle would work.. We have a sub-forum dedicated to discussing 3D printers and lasers. That would be a good place to pursue a 3D printed shuttle. Quote Posted IMHO, by Wiz My current crop of sewing machines: Cowboy CB4500, Singer 107w3, Singer 139w109, Singer 168G101, Singer 29k71, Singer 31-15, Singer 111w103, Singer 211G156, Adler 30-7 on power stand, Techsew 2700, Fortuna power skiver and a Pfaff 4 thread 2 needle serger.
Members DanHolland Posted October 16, 2021 Members Report Posted October 16, 2021 On 10/15/2021 at 6:38 AM, Wizcrafts said: We have a sub-forum dedicated to discussing 3D printers and lasers. That would be a good place to pursue a 3D printed shuttle. Great, I'll look into it, thanks! Quote
Members DanHolland Posted October 16, 2021 Members Report Posted October 16, 2021 (edited) On 10/15/2021 at 12:43 AM, silverkrown said: Wow that’s great. I’ll be interested to see some pictures of it. Did yours come with the shuttle and bobbins? So today I finally had some time to clean the beauty and try her out. The mechanism seems to be running smoothly, when operating slowly there appears to be a "clunck!" sound, when running it faster it disappears. And, yes it came with a shuttle and one bobbin! I'm wondering if the clearance around itis normal, it's quite a lot! The shuttle might be incomplete: compared to the 'threading' youtube vid, it appears to be missing a little clip on the cylindrical side.... Does anyone have a pic of a complete one? It failed to pick up the lower thread 'automatically', when I tried to do it manually, I must have given the shuttle too much resistance to complete its spinning path, somehow pulling it out of phase since I made a collision and broke the needle... Gonna look for the "system 88" needles here in the Netherlands. I'll post some pics now, please fire away if u have any questions! Due to limited space to insert pics here I've started an album, will fill it up slowly with pics / vids... https://photos.app.goo.gl/Vug9acU3Ey3L3dAn7 Cheers, Dan Edited October 16, 2021 by DanHolland Quote
Members silverkrown Posted October 17, 2021 Author Members Report Posted October 17, 2021 6 hours ago, DanHolland said: So today I finally had some time to clean the beauty and try her out. The mechanism seems to be running smoothly, when operating slowly there appears to be a "clunck!" sound, when running it faster it disappears. And, yes it came with a shuttle and one bobbin! I'm wondering if the clearance around itis normal, it's quite a lot! The shuttle might be incomplete: compared to the 'threading' youtube vid, it appears to be missing a little clip on the cylindrical side.... Does anyone have a pic of a complete one? It failed to pick up the lower thread 'automatically', when I tried to do it manually, I must have given the shuttle too much resistance to complete its spinning path, somehow pulling it out of phase since I made a collision and broke the needle... Gonna look for the "system 88" needles here in the Netherlands. I'll post some pics now, please fire away if u have any questions! Due to limited space to insert pics here I've started an album, will fill it up slowly with pics / vids... https://photos.app.goo.gl/Vug9acU3Ey3L3dAn7 Cheers, Dan Thanks for the pictures. The little circle that you ask “what’s this” I believe that can be turned to help keep the shuttle and bobbin in place. What thread are you using? Your last picture it looks like the tension spring is missing from your shuttle. Quote
Members Constabulary Posted October 17, 2021 Members Report Posted October 17, 2021 (edited) These shuttles either came with a tension leaf spring or sometimes with 2 small posts you can wrap the thread around for increasing / decreasing the tensions. Seems your was one with 2 small posts which are missing. Edited October 17, 2021 by Constabulary Quote ~ Keep "OLD CAST IRON" alive - it´s worth it ~ Machines in use: - Singer 111G156 - Singer 307G2 - Singer 29K71 - Singer 212G141 - Singer 45D91 - Singer 132K6 - Singer 108W20 - Singer 51WSV2 - Singer 143W2
Members DanHolland Posted October 17, 2021 Members Report Posted October 17, 2021 (edited) Thanks for the replies! Hoping I can find out how it is supposed to look/function exactly in order to find way to repair. Is there anyone around here with a fully functional shuttle? It would be amazing to find out exactly what's missing + its dimensions... Found these images online, looks as if the screw adjustable excenter has a kind of pin? This one above appears to be non original? Edited October 17, 2021 by DanHolland Quote
Members Constabulary Posted October 17, 2021 Members Report Posted October 17, 2021 (edited) beside the shuttle / hook size (the class 17 had 3 shuttle sizes) there were a few different types with minor differences but the bobbin size remained the same afaik. I think I have one or two Durkopp shuttles but I don't not know which belongs to your machine. Usually the 17-1-1 is the one with the smallest shuttle but seems yours is a 17-1-0 which I never heard of. Here is a chart but 17-1-0 is not mentioned but there probably were other Class 17 models before or after the time this chart came out. Can you give us the measures of just the bobbin and some measured of the shuttle? To give you an idea how many different elastic shuttle types existed (no all are Durkopp and not all are for patchers only) see below pictures. In the 1st picture I just noticed the Durkopp shuttle # 5464 with just holes for the thread tension (German: Lochspannung = holes for thread tension) - this pretty much looks like the one you have just smaller I guess. Edited October 17, 2021 by Constabulary Quote ~ Keep "OLD CAST IRON" alive - it´s worth it ~ Machines in use: - Singer 111G156 - Singer 307G2 - Singer 29K71 - Singer 212G141 - Singer 45D91 - Singer 132K6 - Singer 108W20 - Singer 51WSV2 - Singer 143W2
Members silverkrown Posted October 17, 2021 Author Members Report Posted October 17, 2021 (edited) I found a guy on Instagram that uses a few Durkopp machines in his leatherwork. I talked with him and he helped me figure out what thread and needles to use. Below are some pictures he sent. Maybe the pictures of the shuttles will be of help to you. His machine is the only other one that I’ve seen that has the same top tension mechanism as mine although my needle plate area looks like the 17-1-0? If anyone has a shuttle for sale let me know. Edited October 17, 2021 by silverkrown Quote
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