Dyeing Belt Black and Finishing

[frank207]

I'm doing my first belt order and the customer wanted a black belt with some lettering. I followed the instructions in Al stohlman's book 'how to color leather' for dyeing leather black. I put down a layer of Fiebing's Navy Blue Spirit Dye first, then the 1st coat of Eco-Flo Black Dye, dry buffed (lightly), wet buffed and then put on a second coat of Black and buffed.

When I put the finish on ' Eco-Flo Satin Shene' a lot of Black came off on the rag, is this normal? If not what should do?

If anyone is wondering why I used the Black water based dye over the spirit based Navy Blue dye is because I don't have any spirit based Black dye. Could this be an issue?

Any suggestions will be appreciated.

Thank's,

Frank

[woolfe]

I've never used Eco Flo dyes. Whenever I dye anything black I end up getting allot of rub off, so I would guess what you are experiencing is normal.

For a belt I would use vinegaroon.

http://leatherworker.net/forum/index.php?s...p;hl=vinegaroon

[whinewine]

I'm doing my first belt order and the customer wanted a black belt with some lettering. I followed the instructions in Al stohlman's book 'how to color leather' for dyeing leather black. I put down a layer of Fiebing's Navy Blue Spirit Dye first, then the 1st coat of Eco-Flo Black Dye, dry buffed (lightly), wet buffed and then put on a second coat of Black and buffed.

When I put the finish on ' Eco-Flo Satin Shene' a lot of Black came off on the rag, is this normal? If not what should do?

If anyone is wondering why I used the Black water based dye over the spirit based Navy Blue dye is because I don't have any spirit based Black dye. Could this be an issue?

Any suggestions will be appreciated.

Thank's,

Frank

Frank:

Black always crocks (rubs off), no matter if it's spirit dye or eco flo. Actually, the eco flo crocks less than spirit, IMHO.

Problem with eco flo dyes is that they're water based, so if you sweat a lot, you're going to get dye transfer unless the entire belt is sealed. Better to use drum- dyed black than try to buff off all the crocking, as far as I'm concerned.

[Shorts]

After the leather and dye dry, buff it well to remove any dye residue. This allows you to see any light spots as well. Then top coat when you're satisfied on the color coverage. I seal all leather.

I am interested in trying drum dyed leather to see what it comes out like.

[TomSwede]

I buffed the heck out of a black guitar strap wich had white elements on it but still I got black crocking mix into the sealer when I applied it and so the white tooling elements came out a bit greyish so be very careful and be on the watch for crocking.

Tom

[McJeep]

... and crocking would be? (inquiring newbie needs to know ;0)

[Luke Hatley]

Frank 207.......for Black the next time......"FIEBINGS OIL DYE"

[TZHunter]

I've used the Vinegar/Rust method to dye (veg tan) black and I can't get the color off if I try! Someone said because it doesn't actually dye, but chemically changes the leather. . . really is very simple. . . take a look.. . CLICK HERE