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With Johanna's help we have a web site www.brewersaddles.com Still have more to do on it.

Steve

Weird. In Firefox, Chrome and Safari I'm only seeing HTML. It looks fine in IE. :wtf:

Ah it's frontpage, go figure. :head_hurts_kr:

But also, it's a good start! Any web presence is better than no web presence! ;)

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Steve- looks like your son got you up and running! If he wants any help, give him my info. Congratualtions! You are INTERNATIONAL now! :)

Johanna

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Frontpage regularly produces non-standard HTML and generally uses Microsoft specific extensions. Many people prefer other, more compliant editors or some just code by hand using a text editor.

Instead of checking the browser type and rendering different code for each browser, standards compliant code should work in all compliant browsers, give or take a couple of browser quirks.

From a code-maintenance perspective, FrontPage makes some really nasty and convoluted code. Code maintenance and browser viewing issues were the reason that Microsoft has scrapped it for a newer tool, Expression Web/Studio.

I haven't used these newer Microsoft tools but you could most likely look up reviews of them on Google. :google0dw:

One suggestion I would have is to have the code "validated" to ensure that it complies with HTML standards. Doing so means that it should look the same in any browser (IE, FireFox, Opera, Chrome, Safari,etc). If you do a search on the web, you should be able to find several sites that have online validation scripts. Here's one that is run by the Web Design Group. Web Design Group Validator

Here's the information that it kicked out. Brewer_Saddle_errors.txt

For more on why validation makes sense, check this out. It gives a few quick and dirty reasons. Why Validation Makes Sense

Hope that helps.

Regards,

Ben

Brewer_Saddle_errors.txt

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All I see is HTML also. (Firefox)

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I can't see it either, and I'd sure like to because I really like your saddles. Chris

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I can't see it either, and I'd sure like to because I really like your saddles. Chris

Until they make changes to their site, you will be REQUIRED to view with Internet Explorer. It is your only choice.

Regards,

Ben

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Here's one that is run by the Web Design Group. Web Design Group Validator

Ben

Have you seen the errors that it kicks out when you feed it this page we're on now?

(http://leatherworker.net/forum/index.php?s...mp;hl=frontpage)

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Steve,

I'm jealous...website looks great! Can't wait to see it finished. Now how about some background on you, pics of the ranch and country. I think future clients should know that you are an experienced hand, applying your cowboying and horsemanship experience to build better saddles for other experienced hands! :)

Bob

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Have you seen the errors that it kicks out when you feed it this page we're on now?

A lot of those "errors" are from the forum's skin. Some of the other "errors" are from the mods to the board (like the hover preview and showing members online). I don't know what the rest of the problems it flags are, but the forum seems to work okay for all the different browsers. Incidentally, more than 85% of our viewers are using IE. Firefox is next, and Macs come in at less than 2%.

Johanna

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Thank's for telling me of the problems.Now we can see about fixing them.

Bob thanks for the suggestions.

Steve

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A lot of those "errors" are from the forum's skin. Some of the other "errors" are from the mods to the board (like the hover preview and showing members online). I don't know what the rest of the problems it flags are, but the forum seems to work okay for all the different browsers. Incidentally, more than 85% of our viewers are using IE. Firefox is next, and Macs come in at less than 2%.

Johanna

I ran my own index page through it, and it said that it couldn't return all of the errors because it had exceeded the limit. LOL! :lol:

I built my entire site with FrontPage, so it may be just trash to any browser other than IE. Back when I started the site, some of the other browsers weren't around yet, and I haven't ever looked at it with any of them....

CD

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