The Dreaded Timing Issue

[Tree Reaper]

No, I don't have that Wiz.

I ran 5 stitches in forward and reverse, measured both and the 5 forward stitches measure .820.

the 5 reverse stitches measure .912

That's a difference of .092., almost 3/32"difference.

Both separate stitches are neat and equal but are different in length.

It's like the machine is switching from 5 threads per inch to 6 threads per inch when switching between forward and reverse.

Do you think this might be a timing issue?

Kevin

[Wizcrafts]

No, this is a loose screw issue. Gotta eat dinner first. Go have a brewsky. I'll be back...

[CowboyBob]

Kevin,ok if you think about this in the beginning it was going short in reverse,then you make an adjustment & now it's too long?So what does that tell you?you adjusted it too far,you need to O out the stitch & adjust it back just alittle @ a time until it gets even.

Wiz,FYI Kevin was sewing some thin leather & I believe it got caught in the feed dog,then he tryed forcing the machine to run by pressing on the pedal trying to force the machine to run.I don't recall anyone doing this yet,but feel this is how he knocked the feed timing off.This is the first time this has ever happened it looks like he's getting close to getting it back were it should be.

Good Night all

Bob

[Tree Reaper]

That's pretty much the way it happened Bob although I didn't adjust the stitch length, it was still set the way I got it and was working fine.

It must have wandered on it's own.

Anyway it's all part of owning a machine and I expect to service it now and then but the learning curve is a little steep out of the gate.

I guess I'm about to learn how to adjust the thread pitch.

Thanks for the help even though it wasn't resolved over the phone I did learn how to adjust the needle and feed dog.

Update

I was able to dial the needle holes back together and match the pitch between forward and reverse.

Everything looks good and I'll try a few more runs tomorrow.

Thanks very much for the assistance.

Kevin.

Edited June 27, 2012 by Tree Reaper

[Wizcrafts]

That's pretty much the way it happened Bob although I didn't adjust the stitch length, it was still set the way I got it and was working fine.

It must have wandered on it's own.

Anyway it's all part of owning a machine and I expect to service it now and then but the learning curve is a little steep out of the gate.

I guess I'm about to learn how to adjust the thread pitch.

Thanks for the help even though it wasn't resolved over the phone I did learn how to adjust the needle and feed dog.

Update

I was able to dial the needle holes back together and match the pitch between forward and reverse.

Everything looks good and I'll try a few more runs tomorrow.

Thanks very much for the assistance.

Kevin.

That's great news Kevin! Don't try to power through a jam next time. I usually hand-wheel backwards to try to clear a thread or material jam. Be sure you tighten those set screws as much as possible to keep her in time.

[CowboyBob]

I'm glad to hear you got it corrected.Wiz is correct just use your hands next time if it ever jams again & try turning the handwheel backwards,you might even have to rock it back & forth,these machine are tough & can take alot of abuse BUT that motor with the speed reducer on it has ALOT of torque & can cause larger problems when forced.

Please let us know if you need anymore help.

Bob

[Tree Reaper]

Actually in my own defense I have to say that the machine just came to an abrupt stop and naturally my foot was still on the pedal but I took my foot off immediately so I really didn't attempt to power through it, I know these machines can be temperamental and I wouldn't intentionally try to force it through a jam.

I'm glad it's working again and I learned how to make some adjustments in the process.

Kevin.

Please let us know if you need anymore help.

Bob

Can you upgrade your 800# to include Canada?

Edited June 27, 2012 by Tree Reaper

[CowboyBob]

Actually in my own defense I have to say that the machine just came to an abrupt stop and naturally my foot was still on the pedal but I took my foot off immediately so I really didn't attempt to power through it, I know these machines can be temperamental and I wouldn't intentionally try to force it through a jam.

I'm glad it's working again and I learned how to make some adjustments in the process.

Kevin.

Can you upgrade your 800# to include Canada?

I would if I could but they tell as off July 2006 Toll-Free isn't no longer available International & that's with AT&T.

I have a rate of .05 a min when I call Canada so if you call & either leave a message or if I answer just tell me to call back I can call you back.

Bob

[Tree Reaper]

That's ok Bob, I don't mind calling, it's only a few times a year.

I don't even know what they would charge for that service it may not be worth while for a handful of non resident customers.

You guys have always been great at returning my calls and I appreciate the initiative on your part to call and help out with repairing my machine, that means a lot!

Was that your son I was speaking with or another employee?

Kevin

[CowboyBob]

That's ok Bob, I don't mind calling, it's only a few times a year.

I don't even know what they would charge for that service it may not be worth while for a handful of non resident customers.

You guys have always been great at returning my calls and I appreciate the initiative on your part to call and help out with repairing my machine, that means a lot!

Was that your son I was speaking with or another employee?

Kevin

At first she person I talked with said $8.00 a mon I thought that's great,then she told me I can't get it.

Yes,we always try to get back asap when there's a problem before people start working on it & doing the wrong adjustment,THEN we have 2-problems to correct.

Yes,that's my Son he gets them ready for shipment & I have to say he's the expert on these 4500's.I am busy taking orders,packing,ordering parts & then work on repairs that come in while he takes care of the machines we ship out.

Bob