Thanks, I just got off the phone with a Cowboy dealer in Dallas/Fort Worth and I think I will be getting a CB4500 thanks to you and others input. I struggled with a Techsew 5100/4100 but I believe the CB4500 will give the least problems and let a novis get started sewing sooner. Now do I get the short 10" or 16" cylender????? Again thanks to everyone for you help.