Good evenings Guys & Gals,  
 I have looked and looked, I have called a couple Singer Places with out any luck of locating a needle for my machine (Singer 17-23) there has been some very helpfull people on here, I think I have came to the conclusion, that I need  a pack of needle size 100no.16x2 in a 24 or 25 
 First off, i do not want anyone to go out of there way. I am asking this, just in case some member here lives by or goes buy a Large sewing Machine  supply store. If there was someone, that this fits, the person might ask the clerk if the info I gave you is correct! I live in the middle of know where!! You can go over to Cas City (leather forum) and check me out,(Ace Lungger) I am a good person, and have not, and will not ever cheat anyone!  
If it would of come with a needle I would know excatly what needle that it does take. 
 I will be great full, for any and all help! I thank those that helped me get this far, in my other post! 
Thanks greg