ianpiotr Report post Posted May 20, 2022 Hello everyone, I've been lurking this forum for a while now, as it is an amazing source of knowledge. I currently have an old Adler 067, which I use for sewing heavy fabrics (waxed cotton, cordura, stuff like that). It is a version without up/down movement of the feed dog, only front/back (can't remember which subclass it is). I found someone selling a Pfaff 1245-706/05 for 850€, and I'm wondering if the difference between the two machines would justify the expense. Despite my efforts, I could not find informations about this subclass, so if anyone knows a thing or two about it, I'd be really interested ! My current adler is old but equipped with a nice servomotor (Ho Hsing G60, runs really great). The Pfaff has a clutch motor, but I could swap the two and try to sell the adler. Or I could buy a new servo for the pfaff, why not. Anyway, any comparison point you could provide me on these machine would be much appreciated ! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shoepatcher Report post Posted May 20, 2022 1245 will have the bigger bobbin. Also, foot lift should be a little higher on the Pfaff. Color of Pfaff? Pfaff should be better machine overall and is smoother than the Adler! glenn Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ianpiotr Report post Posted May 20, 2022 1 hour ago, shoepatcher said: 1245 will have the bigger bobbin. Also, foot lift should be a little higher on the Pfaff. Color of Pfaff? Pfaff should be better machine overall and is smoother than the Adler! glenn The pfaff seems to be gray from the pictures, but their quality is bad and the machine probably dirty so not totally sure. I saw some beige models, but why does it matters ? does it corresponds to different series/generations ? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kgg Report post Posted May 20, 2022 2 hours ago, shoepatcher said: 1245 will have the bigger bobbin. I had a PFAFF 1245 it was the old casing that had the coffee yellow body color with the dark brown belt covers. It had the small bobbin. Something to check. kgg Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shoepatcher Report post Posted May 23, 2022 The color of the machine will normally tell you where it was made. All the ones coming out of China are the white ones. However, some white ones came out of Germany. All the other colors came out of Germany. glenn Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ianpiotr Report post Posted May 23, 2022 that's interesting ! thank you ! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ianpiotr Report post Posted June 9, 2022 Okay, my researches continue. The reference 1245 refers to two machines ; the current one, with a very blocky aspect (this one : https://www.universalsewing.com/images2/parts_lists/all/d6aei79f.pdf ) and a slightly older version, the coffee yellow body color with the dark brown belt covers that kgg talked about (https://www.universalsewing.com/images2/parts_lists/all/6mdl64b0.pdf ) From what I see they seems to be very similar inside the frame. what are the differences between these two ? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Constabulary Report post Posted June 10, 2022 (edited) Major difference IMO is just the casting. On the later model they covered whole mechanism on the rear side whereas it is visible / easier accessible on the earlier models. Edited June 10, 2022 by Constabulary Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
morgy Report post Posted October 16, 2022 760-05 and -07 normally come without 'P'. Correction to last post; should have read 1245 706-05 and -07 normally without 'P'. Used for binding. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shoepatcher Report post Posted October 16, 2022 send us the full model number like 1245/706-05 and any other letters. That will tell us a lot. Brass model tag or aluminum tag? glenn Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites