Members skipj Posted November 3, 2007 Members Report Posted November 3, 2007 I Just received my Tandy November sale flier. They have the Stitch Master on the back page. I looks a lot like a Boss to me. I has a 9" throat; is that bigger than the Tippman? It says "Engineered in the USA", nothing about where it is manufactured. I hoped for something different. SkipJ Quote
Russ Posted November 6, 2007 Report Posted November 6, 2007 I drove down to my local Tandy to ask about it. It's a jointly manufactured between Tandy and Weaver. It's supposed to be in stores "before Christmas." The manager said it was very much like the Boss but easier to make adjustments, keep in sync, whatever. I've heard some rumblings (on the internet, so take it for what it's worth) that Tippman is unhappy with how close the design is to their Boss. Quote
Members robert Posted November 6, 2007 Members Report Posted November 6, 2007 I've heard some rumblings (on the internet, so take it for what it's worth) that Tippman is unhappy with how close the design is to their Boss. the Nov/Dec LC&SJ has the new tandy machine on the back cover, and the boss on the last page.. the two look identical other than the throat depth and cosmetic differences. The Boss has a 6" throat, the Stitch Master is 9". Quote
Moderator Art Posted November 6, 2007 Moderator Report Posted November 6, 2007 The price is also higher than the Boss. I had heard rumors that is was going to be waaaaay less. Tandy $1595/1495/1395 Retail/Club/Reseller Tippmann $1295 direct Can't say which is better, they LOOK darned similar. Tandy has been doing some strange things of late and this one has me scratching my fanny. I know Tandy and Weaver do some cooperative things because I have received Tandy branded and bagged stuff in Weaver orders, maybe they are testing the water on a cooperative machinery thing with Weaver. That might be a good move for both; Weaver has ventured into Chinese clones with their new stitcher so why not? Then again, maybe Paul wants to get out and TLF does have a bag of cash, anything is possible. All this is just me thinking from a business standpoint and is pure forward looking speculation, interesting thought though. Art the Nov/Dec LC&SJ has the new tandy machine on the back cover, and the boss on the last page.. the two look identical other than the throat depth and cosmetic differences. The Boss has a 6" throat, the Stitch Master is 9". Quote For heaven's sakes pilgrim, make yourself a strop!
Contributing Member Jordan Posted November 6, 2007 Contributing Member Report Posted November 6, 2007 Tandy has also gone with a different belt embosser and they discontinued the square looking aluminum one. I bought one of the older style, they said "last one in Utah" for 150 I think the retail price was 300 or so. I also got some discontinue dies for it, haven't tried it out much, I did have to do some file work to make everything fit better without binding. Quote
Members AKRob Posted November 12, 2007 Members Report Posted November 12, 2007 Except for the body of the machine and the longer bars the parts look like they come from the same source or are cloned. Quote
Members skipj Posted November 12, 2007 Author Members Report Posted November 12, 2007 (edited) I'm wondering if there is room in the market for two machines so similar. Especially with the Artisan 3000 so close in price. Are the Tippmann machines made in the USA? SkipJ Edited November 12, 2007 by skipj Quote
Russ Posted November 12, 2007 Report Posted November 12, 2007 I was at Tandy on Friday, hoping they had a machine in so I could try it out. During this, the manager there told me that Tandy was buying Weaver. Has anyone else heard this? Russ Quote
Ambassador Luke Hatley Posted November 13, 2007 Ambassador Report Posted November 13, 2007 IF THEY DO ANOTHER GOOD COMPANY WILL GO BY THE WAYSIDE. AND MORE ITEMS WILL BE MANUFACTURED IN CHINA..... Quote Luke
Moderator Art Posted November 13, 2007 Moderator Report Posted November 13, 2007 Hi Russ, As I said before, I have been suspecting something like this. Twice in the last year they have been to showcase seminars where they pitch the company to investors. I teleconed in on both and it was the same Ron and Shannon show both times. However they have just had two bad quarters due to expenses, a lot of it in the legal area and other places that wouldn't make sense if they weren't contemplating something like this. I would say they are looking to spend some money and looking for some additional financing or other ways to capitalize it. The two bad Qs might make them look a little less attractive right now. If a store manager blabbed that to you it could open them up to some insider trading allegations. Not a very brainy move there. Someone dumped a load of stock a couple of weeks ago and dropped the price $2, that's 30%, I don't know if it was an insider. I can see where Weaver and Tandy might fit, or might not; there are things they could teach each other. Art I was at Tandy on Friday, hoping they had a machine in so I could try it out. During this, the manager there told me that Tandy was buying Weaver. Has anyone else heard this?Russ Quote For heaven's sakes pilgrim, make yourself a strop!
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